[veloceleste]

For inspiration and a nod to balanced sound power and image control:
http://www.classicspeakerpages.net/library/allison/allison_ic20/allison_ic20_brochure/allison_ic20_brochure_pg1.html#previous-photo

Click on page 2 for the information.

[Alphonse]

A few years back I went to The Show in Newport Beach and the Muraudio room was very impressive with the $50k+ Domain Omni ESL omnidirectional electrostatic hybrid speakers. They were also using Bryston 7BSST2 amps.

Going back many more years I had a pair of EPI 100 bookshelfs and I am reminded of the EPI 1000 Towers and 400 Mini Tower speakers. Perhaps a crude attempt at omnidirectional. 4 woofers and tweeters in a 4 sided configuration. A friend of mine had the 75" tall Towers. Impressive!

Al

[R. Daneel]

Hi James!

Is there a target price point for this new speaker? It seems to me it will be an expensive project to bring to fruition. To me, Bryston has always been a serious heigh-end company with excellent engineering but still reasonable pricing which cannot be said about many other high-end brands. But it seems your products are moving into the stratosphere. They are better than they used to be years ago of course, but to me, it lost some of it's charms and the prices in EU are simply too high.

In the context of this new loudspeaker, 90 % people in Europe have living rooms not larger than 6 x 5 m so in reality, most of listening rooms cannot even handle a large stand-mount speaker, let alone a big floor-stander or a line array. I hope the costs of this project won't be ammortized through raising the prices of less expensive products.

Cheers!

[James Tanner]

A few years back I went to The Show in Newport Beach and the Muraudio room was very impressive with the $50k+ Domain Omni ESL omnidirectional electrostatic hybrid speakers. They were also using Bryston 7BSST2 amps.

Going back many more years I had a pair of EPI 100 bookshelfs and I am reminded of the EPI 1000 Towers and 400 Mini Tower speakers. Perhaps a crude attempt at omnidirectional. 4 woofers and tweeters in a 4 sided configuration. A friend of mine had the 75" tall Towers. Impressive!

Al

Hi Folks,

One of the differences between current and past OMNI speaker designs and Brystons new design is the ability to control the 'Sound Power' through 360 degrees using DSP.

james

[alexone]

James,

you said that a pair of those new Omnis have two DSP‘s.
would Bryston go for a one-box-solution for both speakers??

al.

[James Tanner]

Hi Al,

We probably will offer both as some customers will want 3 channels as an LCR or want to place the BAX1 near each set of amplifiers.

james

[Anonamemouse]

Maybe give these guys a call?

https://www.arya-audio.com/airblade

AMA with the designer:

https://www.reddit.com/r/diysound/comments/8srhhh/im_arthur_marker_audio_researcher_and_founder_of/

Tech info:

http://www.christensenaudioip.com/

[James Tanner]

Maybe give these guys a call?

https://www.arya-audio.com/airblade

AMA with the designer:

https://www.reddit.com/r/diysound/comments/8srhhh/im_arthur_marker_audio_researcher_and_founder_of/

Tech info:

http://www.christensenaudioip.com/

Looks interesting - any reviews on the speaker?

james

[Anonamemouse]

Looks interesting - any reviews on the speaker?

james

I think they are still developing. There is a picture of a loudspeaker using the Airblade on their instagram
https://www.instagram.com/aryaaudiolabs/

Like I said, give them a call (or email)! I think they will be thrilled with your attention, and Bryston might have a first on something brand new!

Presentaion in Munich, Germany
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewunkfdLY8w

[alexone]

Hi Al,

We probably will offer both as some customers will want 3 channels as an LCR or want to place the BAX1 near each set of amplifiers.

james

...i think it‘s a good idea to offer one dsp for stereo needs! i really like the LFR1100 active speakers but one reason what keeps me away from buying them (among a few others) is the „two-box-dsp-solution“. these speakers are surely well designed and i’m sure that they have an incredible sound stage but in the end you have too many boxes at home for only one purpose:
to listen to music.

al.

[alexone]

James,

any news on this project??

thanx,
al.

[James Tanner]

Hi Al,

Yes doing the testing now but close your eyes as there are lots of "boxes having a single purpose"

Anyway the soundstage is just incredible and the ability to adjust the rear output allows you to fine tune the soundstage image size.





james

[alexone]

oh, ok James, nice to know! speakers are not developed yet, i guess ?!

al.

[alexone]

I like TOD-zilla. 

In German, TOD = death. Just sayin'.   

...correct!

al.

[James Tanner]

oh, ok James, nice to know! speakers are not developed yet, i guess ?!

al.

Hi Al,

I have prototypes but not cosmetically viable currently.

james

[grsimmon]

James;
If you have prototypes then I'm guessing you're pretty far along.    Please keep in mind,  what you are describing are not omnidirectional.   They may be polydirectional or perhaps rear-firing,  but by doing that you lose many of the advantage of omni's.

I would encourage anyone interested to go to Don Morrison's website and read, preferably all of it.  There is fantastic info. there. Then check out Duevel and German Physiks.   

I currently run Mirage OMD-28,  which I would describe as quasi-omnidirectional.   It may appear to be semantics, but there are big differences in launch pattern depending on the omni design.   I am aware of various shortcoming of these particular speakers, but despite this, the sound I'm getting is just fantastic.   I get to have a realistic concert anytime I want at home.  As my kids get older,  I plan on upgrading to either Duevel or German Physiks.   I grew up playing and being around a lot of non-amplified music,  and agree with Morrison and the late Siegfried Linkwitz that un-amplified music is the gold standard.

[James Tanner]

James;
If you have prototypes then I'm guessing you're pretty far along.    Please keep in mind,  what you are describing are not omnidirectional.   They may be polydirectional or perhaps rear-firing,  but by doing that you lose many of the advantage of omni's.

I would encourage anyone interested to go to Don Morrison's website and read, preferably all of it.  There is fantastic info. there. Then check out Duevel and German Physiks.   

I currently run Mirage OMD-28,  which I would describe as quasi-omnidirectional.   It may appear to be semantics, but there are big differences in launch pattern depending on the omni design.   I am aware of various shortcoming of these particular speakers, but despite this, the sound I'm getting is just fantastic.   I get to have a realistic concert anytime I want at home.  As my kids get older,  I plan on upgrading to either Duevel or German Physiks.   I grew up playing and being around a lot of non-amplified music,  and agree with Morrison and the late Siegfried Linkwitz that un-amplified music is the gold standard.

Hi grsimmon

When you say 'polydirectional' do you mean that because we allow the tailoring of the rear wave using DSP or because the assumption is that there is not a 360 degree uniform polar response.

I have known Don Morrison for many years and listened to many of his designs.

Also the designer of our Omin speaker is Andrew Welker who was the major engineer behind all the Mirage products.  He has indicated to me that the difficulty he had with the Mirage is his inability to control the rear and side polar response which DSP has now allowed him to accomplish.

james

[grsimmon]

Hi James;
Yes I have known of you and Don's friendship (maybe even collaboration?) - he told me himself 
By polydirectional,  this is what Don refers to as drivers firing "six ways to Sunday."  I can't say for sure if the new Bryston design is poly or not without seeing it.    THere are numerous examples of designs that have called themselves omni over the years,  but are polydirectional and have totally different launch patterns (and drawbacks).     I've checked out Mr. Welker's new designs and they are LESS omnidirectional compared to the Mirages he designed.  I'm sure someone like Don would say,   they are not omni at all.   One thing I'm not understanding is why Bryston is pursuing DSP control over drivers.  You have previously discussed the disadvantages of using DSP,  here at his forum before.   IIRC you were saying that if a designer is going to use DSP,  it should be only for 200hz and below.   

[James Tanner]

Hi James;
Yes I have known of you and Don's friendship (maybe even collaboration?) - he told me himself 
By polydirectional,  this is what Don refers to as drivers firing "six ways to Sunday."  I can't say for sure if the new Bryston design is poly or not without seeing it.    THere are numerous examples of designs that have called themselves omni over the years,  but are polydirectional and have totally different launch patterns (and drawbacks).     I've checked out Mr. Welker's new designs and they are LESS omnidirectional compared to the Mirages he designed.  I'm sure someone like Don would say,   they are not omni at all.   One thing I'm not understanding is why Bryston is pursuing DSP control over drivers.  You have previously discussed the disadvantages of using DSP,  here at his forum before.   IIRC you were saying that if a designer is going to use DSP,  it should be only for 200hz and below.   

Hi

No I do not have a problem with DSP except when it changes the dispersion pattern of the speakers original design - like in room correction systems. That does not work because it changes the on and off axis response of the original design.

What we are doing is allowing you to alter the level of the rear drivers relative to the front drives depending on the distance from the rear wall. We are not changing the polar response of the speaker which is 360 degrees. The DSP also allows us to produce an Omni speaker because control of the complete Sound Power is not possible to the same degree with passive filters.

james

[TJ-Sully]

Stunning photo..thanks James!