[jackman]

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[JoshK]

Yeah that is really shitty.  I would give that creep a little of my mind and leave appropriately poor feedback.

[Marbles]

Where I come from your word is better than any written contract....you should feel lucky actually, the amp is probably broken etc....Don't worry about not dealing with shit heads like this..feel lucky the deal didn't go through.

[jackman]

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I am done with this and want to put it behind me.  Because of this, I will probably get bad feedback on Audiogon from this person.  I didn't want to post negative feedback, but thought it was necessary because of the way I was treated.  This was just one guy's opinion and one guy's experience.  I was not cheated out of any money and want to make this clear.  I feel bad about the negative feedback this person is undoubtedly going to give me but I'll live.

[eric the red]

Looks like the infamous Randy Boggess aka Audiogon member 'Sticks' left Mr Real hifi some feedback too   http://www.monkeyfreak.com/RSO.htm

[MaxCast]

Sorry to hear about another person who's word means nada.  Where are the good ol days where a mans word and a hand shake was all that was needed.

[kendrid]

This happened to me on Audiogon two times, the most recent with my ACI Sapphire IIIs.  I was told by a buyer that he really wanted them and to consider them his.  Then three days later I get an email telling me that he found something else.  This is after I tell other people they are sold, and mark the ad as sold.  

I like Audiogon, but this kind of behavior has made me much less trusting.  I no longer consider an item sold until I get the money, and I don't consider an item mine until it is in my hands.

[Carlman]

I think it's a 2-way street that makes things get screwy on Audiogon...
For instance, a guy (Mr.1) offers me $300 for something I'm advertising at 450 OBO.  Another guy (Mr.2) offers me 350.  I'm a little suspicious of Mr.2 because of some mixed feedback/gut feeling etc. but, I tell him I'll take it.  I tell Mr. 300 that I got an offer for 350 and that I'm selling it.... he says OK... but then, says, he'd like it for 375.

I feel better about dealing with Mr.1 and now he's offering me more money.  It's the 'best offer'.  So, now what?  Stick to my word and deal with Mr. 2 (as I should) or, take the 375 and tell Mr. 2 he's been 'outbid' so-to-speak.

This happened to me and I had never been faced with it so, I didn't know what to do.  As it ended up, things took care of themselves.  Mr.1 backed out and I sold it to Mr.2 for 350.  No big deal but, I did wonder for a little while as to what to do.

I'm not saying my situation is exactly like this one but, the guy has several positive comments and I'm trying to give him the benefit of the doubt.  Maybe he was faced with a similar situation... maybe he simply didn't trust you....  Could there have been ambiguity in your phone conversation that led him to believe the deal wasn't 100%?

If it were me, I would have stuck to whatever we agreed upon.  If I didn't like the deal, I would tell you why.  As far as I'm concerned, if I believe you're sending the $ and we agree on it, it's a done deal in my book.  But, if you left it up in the air a little on the phone and then asked for an email with details for the purchase, it's still not a done deal.... and may be what happened.

I don't know any more than what's in this thread and what's in that guy's feedback.  So, take what I say with a grain of whatever.  But, it looks to me like there was a misunderstanding and not malice.

-Carl

[jackman]

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[Carlman]

Ahh.... In that case, he sounds like an idiot or a jerk.... or both.
I agree he's a scumbag.  Sorry you had to deal with him and thanks for the heads-up.

The only reason I played devil's advocate was because I've seen people run up the flagpole for something that was indeed a simple misunderstanding.  In this case, it appears you were screwed.

This post reminded me I have an amp for sale so, I started a short auction on A-gon for a B&K ST-140.  I'm a good seller.  Buy it and I'll sell it.... and that's it.  No pansy-ass backing out of the deal crap like Mr. Scumbag did.

Thanks and good luck with the next deal.

-Carl

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[sheppard]

I experienced a similar thing just this past week. I'll leave names out since I'm not writing this to bash anybody's reputation.

I put a wanted ad on Audigon for a piece of equipment. Someone responded with an offer to which I made a counter-offer. A day later, the guy says that somebody else has made a higher offer so I say, "fine, sell it to him". Another day passes, and he says that the other buyer has backed out so he's willing to sell the item to me at my offer price. I agree that it's a deal and ask him for his paypal account information. Another day passes. I wake up to check my email and find two letters from the buyer. The first letter details how I can pay him for the item. The second letter (I'm not certain how much time elapsed between these letter) explains that the other guy who had backed out had changed his mind and had already sent his payment into his paypal account. Hence, no more sale to me.

The guy was apologetic of course but apologies don't mean when he actually had the choice to do the right thing and give the other guy his money back. After all, paypal doesn't charge anything for regular accounts.

Oh well, as with the original poster, I'm not out any dough.

[fredgarvin]

I have never been able to complete a purchase at a-gon. The sellers are always trying to get the most pennies and also , I think, trying to avoid shipping. It's usually a line like "I think I have another buyer-I'll get back to you." Which means "I've got you, so I'll stall until a better offer comes." But what happened to Jackman is the worst type of Bullshit.

[Brad]

What happens a lot to me on 'gon is a lot of people sending lowball offers.

There are quite a few good people there and I've bought/sold a lot of stuff in my 'quest' for better sound.