Go with Unrevealing Warm Hi Fi or Revealing Neutral Hi Fi

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gberger

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Re: Go with Unrevealing Warm Hi Fi or Revealing Neutral Hi Fi
« Reply #40 on: 9 Feb 2019, 07:50 pm »
I have a firm foot in both camps.

I grew up on the edge of the Sonoran Desert,  well BS  (Before Stereo)- - no electricity - - so I listened to 78rpm Victor Red Deal 12" records on a wind-up Victrola. I loved them, and cut my classical teeth on those Red Seals. Now, I would rate the sound as restricted, and with almost zero dynamic range.

After WWII, I began building speakers, using JBL drivers, and building my own amplifiers. I was in  the US Air Force, so everything I owned had to be both small and transportable every couple of years.  AS (After Stereo), I quit building speakers and  began acquiring a series of monitors and electronics. I was weeded to tubes until the supply of KT88s started to come from Russia and decent 12ax7s became too expensive.   Switched to Solid State, and a new aural experience, as solid state and tubes clearly were different! Ouch.

We went through 78s, 45s, LPs, 10.5 inch reel-to-reel , and finally CDs - - each with its own aural signature. It was interesting to follow the sequence of recordings mastered by John Curl and the other control room geniuses. Recording techniques went from single mike to several mikes to multiple mikes placed throughout the orchestras. Soloists were picked up on single mikes, ending up with the ones now worn by the individuals.   Yeah, that certainly placed responsibility for quality recordings on the engineers and producers in  the control rooms.

After many years of listening both to live performances and recorded ones, I ended up retiring my AR3a monitors for a pair of Thiel CS 3.5 speakers, followed by my current Thiel CS 2.7 speakers and aSS2.2 Sub.  Amplifiers?  From Macintosh to CJ to Boulder to Bryston 4BSST2. Preamp from Macintosh to NAD to Bryston BP-6 and now to BP-26 and BP 17cubed. BCD-3 CD spinner.

For me, almost every step of the way since the 78 Red Seals has resulted in progressing from the over-melodic and dynamically-restricted to what I have today. With the 26, more dense and harmony. With the 17c, more accuracy and clearer upper mid and highs. For me, the preamp and CD spinner quality are what ultimately drive listener satisfaction.

My person reference for the ultimate aural experience? A VPO and Chorus performance of Berlioz Te Deum in the Musikverein a few years ago.

Just the random thoughts of someone who has been chasing Audio Niverna since 1948

   

G E

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Re: Go with Unrevealing Warm Hi Fi or Revealing Neutral Hi Fi
« Reply #41 on: 9 Feb 2019, 08:10 pm »


My person reference for the ultimate aural experience? A VPO and Chorus performance of Berlioz Te Deum in the Musikverein a few years ago.


This.  Can't beat the live performance in a great hall. 

brucek

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Re: Go with Unrevealing Warm Hi Fi or Revealing Neutral Hi Fi
« Reply #42 on: 9 Feb 2019, 08:39 pm »
Just the random thoughts of someone who has been chasing Audio Niverna since 1948


I've never been really satisfied with my audio equipment, but as I've aged I think my hearing has experienced an expected loss of fidelity, and this has made me much more accepting. I have a couple systems, but my main system is Bryston with ProAc 3.8 speakers.

I started out by playing around with 78's that were around the house, and then got into 45's with a little RCA Victor 45 record changer I picked up. I loved that thing, but only for the music. I didn't know or care about fidelity.

In the mid to late 1950's I remember being at a big city fair/exhibition where my Mom took me to this pavilion that had a demonstration of the newest thing in audio, called stereo sound.

They had a bunch of headphones hanging down from the ceiling that you would put on and listen to hi-fi stereo music. It was claimed to be the future of audio sound.

I wish I had a picture of my face when I lowered those bulky headphones onto my head.

I never heard anything so wonderful in my life. That's certainly where I became a crazy person obsessed with getting the best sound I could get.

I've gone through all the different mediums, and all the quadraphonic and multichannel nonsense. I still believe nothing beats stereo, although the stereo recordings today seem to be a lot more homogenized that years ago when they seemed to isolate the sound to the outside much more.

brucek

gberger

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Re: Go with Unrevealing Warm Hi Fi or Revealing Neutral Hi Fi
« Reply #43 on: 9 Feb 2019, 09:06 pm »
brucek

Gotta' agree,  earlier stereo recordings through headphones were an altering experience. The very few true binaural recordings were awesome.

I still use a set of STAX Lambda Pro headphones, late at night, to keep my neighbors from complaining about the Puccini operas on the Spinner.