[EZHusky]

Can anyone give me any info on this cartridge? I got it from a turntable that was given to me, i was wondering if i could get more info on the specs, and also if anyone could compare it to a NAGAOKA  MP-100 MM or an Ortofon 2m red, as those are two cartridges i wanna get. Thanks!

[Elizabeth]

1970's design.... top of the line. Still sell for $100.
Type
Moving Magnet
Output Voltage
4.4 mV
Freq Response
10Hz - 30kHz
Tracking Force
0.5 - 1.25 g
Mass
5.5 g
Channel Separation
35 dB
Channel Balance
Load Impedance
47k Ω
Output Impedance
D1200
Stylus Tip
0.2 x 0.7 mil Elliptical
Cantilever
Dynamic Compliance
Static Compliance
Price
$250

[EZHusky]

1970's design.... top of the line. Still sell for $100.
Type
Moving Magnet
Output Voltage
4.4 mV
Freq Response
10Hz - 30kHz
Tracking Force
0.5 - 1.25 g
Mass
5.5 g
Channel Separation
35 dB
Channel Balance
Load Impedance
47k Ω
Output Impedance
D1200
Stylus Tip
0.2 x 0.7 mil Elliptical
Cantilever
Dynamic Compliance
Static Compliance
Price
$250

So it would be worth comparing it to the ortofon 2m red and nagaoka mp-100?

[I.Greyhound Fan]

Can anyone give me any info on this cartridge? I got it from a turntable that was given to me, i was wondering if i could get more info on the specs, and also if anyone could compare it to a NAGAOKA  MP-100 MM or an Ortofon 2m red, as those are two cartridges i wanna get. Thanks!

Wow, Nagaoka and the 2m Red are on opposite ends of warm and bright with the 2m being bright and grainy and the Nag being warmer and smoother.  Can't help ya with the pickering though, never heard one.

[EZHusky]

Wow, Nagaoka and the 2m Red are on opposite ends of warm and bright with the 2m being bright and grainy and the Nag being warmer and smoother.  Can't help ya with the pickering though, never heard one.

Oh really? guess i should have looked into it more, thats my mistake

[I.Greyhound Fan]

Oh really? guess i should have looked into it more, thats my mistake

I own a Nagaoka MP-200 and MP-150 which have similar tone.  I tried a 2m Red in 2 different systems and while it is dynamic and musical, it was fatiguing, noisy, grainy and bright in comparison.  The Nagaoka MP-110 is suppose to be warmer than the MP-150 and MP-200.

[EZHusky]

I own a Nagaoka MP-200 and MP-150 which have similar tone.  I tried a 2m Red in 2 different systems and while it is dynamic and musical, it was fatiguing, noisy, grainy and bright in comparison.  The Nagaoka MP-110 is suppose to be warmer than the MP-150 and MP-200.

With that being said, i think i might go for the nagaoka, but i feel like i need to listen to more cartridges, as the only one ive ever really listened to is the pickering

[EZHusky]

1970's design.... top of the line. Still sell for $100.
Type
Moving Magnet
Output Voltage
4.4 mV
Freq Response
10Hz - 30kHz
Tracking Force
0.5 - 1.25 g
Mass
5.5 g
Channel Separation
35 dB
Channel Balance
Load Impedance
47k Ω
Output Impedance
D1200
Stylus Tip
0.2 x 0.7 mil Elliptical
Cantilever
Dynamic Compliance
Static Compliance
Price
$250

It says to run the cartridge at 0.5 to 1.25 grams, but it sounds really distorted on the "s" sounds, I believe that this is my alinment, but it sounds better if I set it to 2 grams, is this okay to do? I have no way to align the cartridge

[toocool4]

It says to run the cartridge at 0.5 to 1.25 grams, but it sounds really distorted on the "s" sounds, I believe that this is my alinment, but it sounds better if I set it to 2 grams, is this okay to do? I have no way to align the cartridge

If you are having problems with s sounds, it sounds more like an SRA adjustment issue.

[EZHusky]

If you are having problems with s sounds, it sounds more like an SRA adjustment issue.

What is that? And how do I fix it

[I.Greyhound Fan]

Get yourself an alignment protractor if you don't already have one. They are a must.   Also, a digital tracking force gauge is a good idea as well.


What Turn Table are you using? Does it have a low mass tone arm?  The Nag's are medium compliance cartridges.  The 2m Red is  high compliance

[Elizabeth]

The cartridge is really old. (so the suspension may be stiffer tha normal for awhile) It sould be OK to set it to 2 grams. Plus your gizmo for setting it (if it is just the device in the turntable may be off. Also. are 'balancing' the arm to zero with the arm level? (not so good) or with the arm just almost touching the surface of a LP? (better) ((This does not matter IF you use a separate accurate gauge, but if you are using the arm's own weighting, setting zero weight on the arm of the TT, at the surface will give more accurate weight
If level, that alone may make it off (too light) a lot using the TT setting for tracking force.
So I say just go for the 2 grams.

[toocool4]

What is that? And how do I fix it

Sorry Stylus Rake Angle see attached image. When the record is cut, it’s cut at around 92 degrees and you need to try and make the same angle with your stylus to retrieve the data back. By raising or lowering you tone arm you can achieve it.
I suspect by you applying more weight on your stylus is lowering the SRA you have on the stylus hence it appears you need more weight to get better sound, what in fact you may be doing is flexing the cantilever down to get the correct SRA. Hope that helps.



Also this little vid may help explain better what i mean. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otysEyET6yE

[EZHusky]

Get yourself an alignment protractor if you don't already have one. They are a must.   Also, a digital tracking force gauge is a good idea as well.


What Turn Table are you using? Does it have a low mass tone arm?  The Nag's are medium compliance cartridges.  The 2m Red is  high compliance

The turntable is a pioneer pl-518, I have no idea what the tone arm is

[EZHusky]

The cartridge is really old. (so the suspension may be stiffer tha normal for awhile) It sould be OK to set it to 2 grams. Plus your gizmo for setting it (if it is just the device in the turntable may be off. Also. are 'balancing' the arm to zero with the arm level? (not so good) or with the arm just almost touching the surface of a LP? (better) ((This does not matter IF you use a separate accurate gauge, but if you are using the arm's own weighting, setting zero weight on the arm of the TT, at the surface will give more accurate weight
If level, that alone may make it off (too light) a lot using the TT setting for tracking force.
So I say just go for the 2 grams.

Yes the tone arm is balanced

[EZHusky]

Sorry Stylus Rake Angle see attached image. When the record is cut, it’s cut at around 92 degrees and you need to try and make the same angle with your stylus to retrieve the data back. By raising or lowering you tone arm you can achieve it.
I suspect by you applying more weight on your stylus is lowering the SRA you have on the stylus hence it appears you need more weight to get better sound, what in fact you may be doing is flexing the cantilever down to get the correct SRA. Hope that helps.



Also this little vid may help explain better what i mean. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otysEyET6yE

I will be looking at that video when I get home, I believe that the stylus I got with the cartridge is the wrong one, so it can rotate around and I have to make sure it's straight down every time I play, but with such a small needle it is impossible to get it right

[toocool4]

EZHusky is this what you have? i don't think the stylus should rotate.

[EZHusky]

EZHusky is this what you have? i don't think the stylus should rotate.

Well I know it shouldn't rotate, but it's what I have, so I have to make it work, I think it's the wrong stylus so it makes sense
I'll take some pictures when I get home

[toocool4]

EZHusky don't make it work, if it's the wrong stylus don't use it as you may end up damaging your records. Get the correct stylus and save yourself time / money / headache

[EZHusky]

EZHusky don't make it work, if it's the wrong stylus don't use it as you may end up damaging your records. Get the correct stylus and save yourself time / money / headache

Well shoot, I'm gonna need to find where to get a new stylus