ACHTUNG: the loudspeaker bargain of 2018!

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Re: ACHTUNG: the loudspeaker bargain of 2018!
« Reply #20 on: 26 Dec 2018, 03:38 am »
My vote goes for the JBL LSR305 Mk2, a solid step up from the original 305 in terms of musicality.  The original way out performed the Elac B6.  Both JBL's have a MSRP of $300/pair and are active, so no power amps or speaker cable needed, they are just plain stupid good.

I have both the LSR305 Mk 1, and ELAC B6 (version 1). The LSR305 is better at imaging, staging and microdetails. The B6 is fun sounding, has a nice ripe bass response, and my daughter loves it. I think ELACs forte is in their coincident designs quite honestly.

Both measure well, with the 305 edging out the B6 particularly in the constancy of the off axis response. The waveguide on the B6 is very small with a high crossover point which I see they improved upon in the 6.2 version. They also shortened the center to center distance between the 2 drivers, and redesigned the crossover.  I expect the 6.2 to sound even better.

Tough market but both companies give tremendously more for the dollar and are more accountable with regards to measurements than many other manufacturers. They spend more money and research on what acoustically matters and less talk about how much elbow grease they spent on the cabinet veneer or coat of paint.  They also have superior resources to make better engineered products with custom drivers, anechoic chambers, etc...it’s hard to beat a fella who trained at KEF who are THE authority on coincident speaker design, and hard to beat a company with a multimillion $ budget, and numerous qualified engineers who routinely pluck competitor loudspeakers for testing/researching with a measurement technique (Spinorama) that has revolutionized the industry, ie JBL and is now followed by others (most notably KEF!).

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Re: ACHTUNG: the loudspeaker bargain of 2018!
« Reply #21 on: 26 Dec 2018, 08:19 pm »
Well, the debut 6.2 are being sent back today.  Ran them in a few more hours and the sound has indeed changed after some run in.  But for the worse.  Wimpiest bookshelves I have owned.  I don't think they are a bargain even at 150.  I don't doubt the review samples are great and all but there is probably an underlying reason why this particular model is the only one on sale at 50% off.
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Re: ACHTUNG: the loudspeaker bargain of 2018!
« Reply #22 on: 28 Dec 2018, 12:11 pm »
The Infinity R162 is on sale for $180 right now and those are possibly the best budget buy right now. I recommend them. The Elac UB5 are something like $320 on Amazon right now, too.

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Re: ACHTUNG: the loudspeaker bargain of 2018!
« Reply #23 on: 28 Dec 2018, 12:13 pm »
Well, the debut 6.2 are being sent back today.  Ran them in a few more hours and the sound has indeed changed after some run in.  But for the worse.  Wimpiest bookshelves I have owned.  I don't think they are a bargain even at 150.  I don't doubt the review samples are great and all but there is probably an underlying reason why this particular model is the only one on sale at 50% off.
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Elac runs major sales on their models to drum up attention to their products. They’ve always done this since Jones started designing for them.

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Re: ACHTUNG: the loudspeaker bargain of 2018!
« Reply #24 on: 28 Dec 2018, 12:32 pm »
The bargain of 2018 in speakers was when Underwood Hifi was selling out the Gallo Classico Ones for $149 a pair. These had a MSRP of $795 a pair. These are much better sounding than the Elacs. I saw a used pair go for $98 recently on Ebay. That was sure a steal. If you need a pair of small speakers, I would keep watch for those.

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« Reply #25 on: 28 Dec 2018, 02:18 pm »
Bought these...

https://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/kefq150blk/kef-q150-5.25-2-way-bookshelf-speaker-black-pair/1.html

KEF Q150 $269.99 no tax, including shipping - I'd say Bargain of the Year!
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Re: ACHTUNG: the loudspeaker bargain of 2018!
« Reply #26 on: 29 Dec 2018, 02:19 am »
Bought these...

https://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/kefq150blk/kef-q150-5.25-2-way-bookshelf-speaker-black-pair/1.html

KEF Q150 $269.99 no tax, including shipping - I'd say Bargain of the Year!

Very nice. KEF has continuously perfected their coincident designs, particularly the polar pattern transition from the midwoofer to the tweeter is done seamlessly.  This is really very difficult to do.  They have also patent protected a lot of their work. If I were shopping for coincident designs, KEF is definitely on the list.

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Anand.

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Re: ACHTUNG: the loudspeaker bargain of 2018!
« Reply #27 on: 29 Dec 2018, 04:41 am »
Those KEFs are indeed excellent.  My friend has a pair, and IMHO you'd have to pay quite a bit more for anything better.  A great bargain.   :thumb: