new belt changed the sound of table

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mgsboedmisodpc2

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new belt changed the sound of table
« on: 29 Sep 2018, 03:10 am »
I replaced my Well Tempered Classic square motor turntable belt to one made of rubber.  The first thing I noticed is how quickly the platter begins to rotate because of how tight the belt is.  I decided to play a record I recently played "Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap AC/DC".  The highs were louder the  percussion cymbals played cleaner thru the Denon 103r.  I would say the music came off the grooves with greater precision because the belt reduced motor vibration and improved speed tracking.  The guitar on Dirty Deeds I could hear in between the cords.  I decided to replace the older belt which is no longer made by well tempered because of the increasing number of platter rotations it took to get up to speed.  So I guess the friction caused by the needle on the grooves the newer belt easily over comes than the older belt.
This rubber belt seems to have a higher friction ratio than well tempered belt which is made from so sort of polypropylene

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Re: new belt changed the sound of table
« Reply #1 on: 29 Sep 2018, 03:25 am »
Would you share where you got the new belt? I have a WT Classic, also, and have been looking for a replacement belt. The WT distributor, Toffco, no longer has access to the old stock belts.


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Re: new belt changed the sound of table
« Reply #2 on: 29 Sep 2018, 03:31 am »
This is a very refined TT with any belt, if change the LP to Mozart the performance may stay slightly better ymmv.

mgsboedmisodpc2

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Re: new belt changed the sound of table
« Reply #3 on: 29 Sep 2018, 03:56 am »

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Re: new belt changed the sound of table
« Reply #4 on: 29 Sep 2018, 05:32 pm »
I have a Well Tempered Reference and this belt is superb .

 https://www.originlive.com/hi-fi/turntable-upgrades-modification/turntable-belt-upgrade/

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Re: new belt changed the sound of table
« Reply #5 on: 30 Sep 2018, 12:59 pm »
"“Upgrade Belt” can also be used with any Origin Live DC Motor Kit."
So the above is not true then?  I have contacted Origin Live to find out if this belt can be used with other motor drives

mgsboedmisodpc2

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Re: new belt changed the sound of table
« Reply #6 on: 1 Oct 2018, 04:11 pm »
Origin Live responded by writing
"If your deck runs on a square belt then ours are unsuitable."
The  WELL TEMPERED CLASSIC turntable uses a flat belt not a square belt.
So I guess the origin Live Turntable Belt Upgrade (flat only) might work as well.
The Origin Live product called "Upgrade Belt" supposedly has vibration damping properties greater than other rubber or polyurethane belts.
The well tempered classic uses a Turntable Belt 35.1 inches long.