Vision SET 400 amp Review

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gene9p

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Re: Vision SET 400 amp Review
« Reply #120 on: 8 May 2021, 09:56 pm »
I had the A23+ as well with my Vinnie Rossi LIO and had Amperex 7308 white labels as well as green labels and thought it was quite good. I never felt the A23+ was underwhelming at all. As far as the A21 , it just sounds better with my "new"setup using the Mac 2300.  It was a tough call but it did sound more to my liking, a bit smoother than the 400 but that's not a knock, just the way I listen to my music these days. I did not try the 400 nor the A21 with the LIO. Perhaps down the road but right now I am committed..lol..to the Mac. The Mac with the new Tung Sol 12x7 gold pins is quite beautiful sounding, much better than the original 12x7 's. I sold my Genalex 12x7 Gold Lions a while ago when I sold my Mac C220. The only limitations with the Mac 2300 is it is hard to swap tubes compared to the C220 and the ease of the VR LIO.  In your set up you might hear things differently and the 400 is the better fit. Cables as well as speakers make a difference as well. ..not to mention I  will be 70 at the end of the year and I KNOW my hearing has changed and not for the better. As far as comparison between the A21 and the A23+...build quality is outstanding now on the 23+, much better than the older one and better in some ways than the original A21. The new 21+ has taken the build quality to a higher level as well along the lines of the JC5. Sound wise the original 21 I have is better overall... sound stage, bass, everything over the 23+, it's just that good. Not so when comparing the 21 to the 400..both are excellent and give so much great sound and detail. Both are quality built . So it comes down to a gut decision. If I could keep both..I would...this was a tough tough decision.










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Re: Vision SET 400 amp Review
« Reply #121 on: 8 May 2021, 11:17 pm »
Gene, I owned an A21 that I gave to my son.  We recently sold it.  We compared the A21 to the SET 400 that I reviewed and the 400 was smoother, more musical and it was not even close.

It could be system matching with preamps and DAC's or we just hear things different.

gene9p

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Re: Vision SET 400 amp Review
« Reply #122 on: 9 May 2021, 12:42 pm »
exactly.....
same with the Pass Labs XP 10..so loved but didn't work for me....better adjust my meds..lol

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Re: Vision SET 400 amp Review
« Reply #123 on: 9 May 2021, 04:11 pm »
exactly.....
same with the Pass Labs XP 10..so loved but didn't work for me....better adjust my meds..lol

Sounds like you are trying different things to find the best fit for your system and that's what it's all about. 

That whole saga about the XP10 vs the later version 12, 22, 30 seemed to be an expensive trial & error venture and many went through that, and still are.   Others trying vendor preamps including various tube preamps to find the synergy with their Pass amps. For a while there, NP was actually recommending people try really good tube preamps with his amps. Some have with great reward.  Then out came the NuTube Korg, some tried that too. Finding a good match can be super rewarding when it happens, particularly when it raises the result for all components within the system to sound their best. For those who can swing it, sure seems like it would be worthwhile to pair up one of the AVA preamps with the AVA amps to give it a fair review if the current preamp one has might be in question. Best of luck to all on these units, good fun.   

decooney

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« Reply #124 on: 9 May 2021, 04:18 pm »
duplicate, deleted.
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I.Greyhound Fan

Re: Vision SET 400 amp Review
« Reply #125 on: 9 May 2021, 11:02 pm »
Agree, I had an X1 preamp with my X250 amp and sold it for a BAT VK51se tube preamp and have never looked back.

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Re: Vision SET 400 amp Review
« Reply #126 on: 10 May 2021, 03:59 pm »
We now have a perfect like new demo Vision SET 400 power amp with the premium silver faceplate available for 10% off.

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Re: Vision SET 400 amp Review
« Reply #127 on: 16 Aug 2022, 06:39 pm »
I stopped by AVA this spring and picked up a SET 400.  It has been everything I hoped.  Plenty of power.  It runs cool.  Ten hour sessions are handled with aplomb. Sound is dynamic and clear.  Music has details I haven't heard before.  I'm definitely a fan!  But I'm afraid I may have contracted g.a.s.  Anyone have recommendations on a pre to go with the SET 400?  I am eagerly awaiting your updated lineup Frank! 

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Re: Vision SET 400 amp Review
« Reply #128 on: 11 Sep 2022, 06:24 am »
I stopped by AVA this spring and picked up a SET 400.  It has been everything I hoped.  Plenty of power.  It runs cool.  Ten hour sessions are handled with aplomb. Sound is dynamic and clear.  Music has details I haven't heard before.  I'm definitely a fan!  But I'm afraid I may have contracted g.a.s.  Anyone have recommendations on a pre to go with the SET 400?  I am eagerly awaiting your updated lineup Frank!

My Yamaha C4 pre is getting long in tooth.
I am also starting to consider a new pre-amp to pair with my SET 400.

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Re: Vision SET 400 amp Review
« Reply #129 on: 12 Sep 2022, 08:35 pm »
Either our Vision RB solid state preamp or our Transcendence 10 vacuum tube preamp will work great with the SET 400 power amp.

It just depends on whether you would like a small touch of romantic tube sound or a bit closer to the real world for your choice.

Both are the same price and both look identical using our brand new much upgraded silver faceplates.  Remote control standard, phono section optional.



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