Belden 4K Digital Series Now at Blue Jeans Cable/Ethernet Cable Find

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Just an FYI that BJC now carries the new 12G '4K' Series by Belden:
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Apart from the jacket lettering, externally these cables look just like the 6G versions, but internally they've been re-engineered for 12G. This has meant going to silver-plated copper center conductors, for improved attenuation; bonded foil, for tighter control of impedance; and reconfigured shield braids to prevent the shield from creating return loss issues.

https://www.bluejeanscable.com/store/sdi-cables/index.htm

Sounds like an affordable opportunity that should satisfy both audiophile and, er, Blue Jeans Cable fans. Personally I intend to get the 4694R version and use it for my internet coaxial cable. And just as a reminder you can also get really affordable pure silver only digital coax, the Audioquest VSD-5, here:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Audioquest-VSD-5-Bulk-Cable-By-The-Foot-NEW/360085175381?hash=item53d6bfbc55:g:QfEAAMXQskFRHrdU

Of course, that doesn't have the same kind of credibility - specs, measurements, et al - as BJC.

Lastly, I've been messing around with a tweak (which I won't go into at this forum) that involves ethernet cables. I ended up cutting open a number of cheap Ethernet Cat7 cables off Amazon and I gotta say, some of them are poorly made. I mean, terrible. One exception was the Amazon brand:

https://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-Network-Ethernet-Patch-Cable/dp/B013PUMQYY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1526337129&sr=8-1&keywords=amazon+cat7

The jacket is thick, the internals revealed high quality copper mesh braid, a high quality foil underneath, and then individually wrapped twisted pairs beneath that. All tightly wrapped. Screamed quality. The look and construction reminded me of a certain company. Then I remembered Blue Jeans Cable is also based in Seattle...  8) :eyebrows:





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Lastly, I've been messing around with a tweak (which I won't go into at this forum) that involves ethernet cables. I ended up cutting open a number of cheap Ethernet Cat7 cables off Amazon and I gotta say, some of them are poorly made. I mean, terrible. One exception was the Amazon brand:

https://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-Network-Ethernet-Patch-Cable/dp/B013PUMQYY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1526337129&sr=8-1&keywords=amazon+cat7

The jacket is thick, the internals revealed high quality copper mesh braid, a high quality foil underneath, and then individually wrapped twisted pairs beneath that. All tightly wrapped. Screamed quality. The look and construction reminded me of a certain company. Then I remembered Blue Jeans Cable is also based in Seattle...  8) :eyebrows:

That's an interesting theory, esp. since BJC doesn't appear to sell Cat7 ethernet cables on their website (but for the right large contract price, I guess they could make them for others).

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Why would you need Cat7 (or even Cat6) for digital audio?

By the way, Kurt Denke of BJC is a real world expert on digital audio cables.

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Some Kurt Danke stuff:

Why Your Cat6/5e Network Cable is Slowing You Down: Interview with Blue Jeans Cable
https://www.audioholics.com/audio-video-cables/bjc-cat-network-cable-quality-interview

Is Your Cat 6 Cable a Dog?
http://www.bluejeanscable.com/articles/is-your-cat6-a-dog.htm

Cables: Fact, Fiction & Fraud: The Horrible Truth About Wire and Cable
http://www.aes-media.org/sections/pnw/pnwrecaps/2011/mar_lampen/

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When it comes to cable engineering design and manufacturing quality control, Audioquest is not in the same league as Belden (how's that for an understatement?).

https://www.belden.com/blog/broadcast/a-new-coax-cable-design-part-1
https://www.belden.com/blog/broadcast/cable-braid-design-an-important-factor-in-new-4k-coax-cable-part-2
https://www.belden.com/blog/broadcast/is-category-cable-enough-for-4k-uhd-hdbaset

That's why I made my comment just for you SS  :rules::

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Of course, that doesn't have the same kind of credibility - specs, measurements, et al - as BJC.

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When it comes to cable engineering design and manufacturing quality control, Audioquest is not in the same league as Belden (how's that for an understatement?).

https://www.belden.com/blog/broadcast/a-new-coax-cable-design-part-1
https://www.belden.com/blog/broadcast/cable-braid-design-an-important-factor-in-new-4k-coax-cable-part-2
https://www.belden.com/blog/broadcast/is-category-cable-enough-for-4k-uhd-hdbaset


 Hey finally I agree 100% with you. Beldens Iconoclast cables are a prime example of what you said.


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 Hey finally I agree 100% with you. Beldens Iconoclast cables are a prime example of what you said.


charles
And their cost reflects that.