Elac Debut 2.0's hitting the street

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Doublej

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Elac Debut 2.0's hitting the street
« on: 30 Mar 2018, 12:43 am »
Looks like Andrew Jones has updated the B5 and B6.

https://www.elac.com/product/b5-2/?r=us

https://www.elac.com/product/b6-2/?r=us

Will they be cheerier than the originals?




Letitroll98

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Re: Elac Debut 2.0's hitting the street
« Reply #1 on: 30 Mar 2018, 01:20 pm »
A slight price increase.  I wonder where the improvements are.  On the B 6.2 the crossover is lowered to 2200Hz vs 3000Hz on the older model, sensitivity and reactance are the same.  Drivers and cabinets seem unchanged.

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Re: Elac Debut 2.0's hitting the street
« Reply #2 on: 30 Mar 2018, 02:17 pm »
A slight price increase.  I wonder where the improvements are.  On the B 6.2 the crossover is lowered to 2200Hz vs 3000Hz on the older model, sensitivity and reactance are the same.  Drivers and cabinets seem unchanged.

The cabinet is now taller, narrower and front ported. The new version has more clarity and a bigger soundstage but with less bass, though the base is now tighter and more defined.

“The B6.2 has a cheerfully retro appearance that recalls older British designs from Bowers and Wilkins or Wharfedale. When placed alongside the original Debut B6 it looks like a completely different speaker -- where the B6 was short and squat, the update is taller and slimmer with the noticeable addition of a front bass port.”

https://www.cnet.com/products/elac-debut-2-0-b6-2/review/

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Lester

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Re: Elac Debut 2.0's hitting the street
« Reply #3 on: 31 Mar 2018, 12:02 pm »
Thanks Lester, very informative.  Interesting about the reduced apparent bass, the spec'd frequency response is the same between both models, but we know specs aren't everything.

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« Reply #4 on: 5 Apr 2018, 07:18 am »
Thanks Lester, very informative.  Interesting about the reduced apparent bass, the spec'd frequency response is the same between both models, but we know specs aren't everything.

The lower crossover is large enough to have a large impact on presentation. With the tweeter taking on more of the midrange, dispersion will be different and the mids potentially clearer since the woofer isn't working so hard. The previous model was perceived to have some treble rolloff so it sounds like that's also been adjusted per the CNET review. Also the improved enclosure build quality with improved resonance should make a difference too.

What's interesting is that the 'complex crossover' angle isn't mentioned in the marketing of the new model. Wonder why. My guess overall is Elac decided they would rather cut costs on aesthetics so they could improve sq in order to meet similar price point.

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Re: Elac Debut 2.0's hitting the street
« Reply #5 on: 17 Apr 2018, 03:56 pm »
Anyone get one of these yet? I know they're shipping on Amazon.

pinkfloyd4ever

Re: Elac Debut 2.0's hitting the street
« Reply #6 on: 18 Apr 2018, 08:47 pm »
The only reasons I didn't try the originals were
•   the rear port (I’d need to place them close to a wall) and
•   the combination of huge bass (for a bookshelf anyway) with rolled-off treble (I’m the opposite of a basshead because even moderate levels of bass tend to give me a headache)

So I'm pretty interested in anyone's impressions of these as well since my 2 qualms with the original design have been addressed.

pinkfloyd4ever

Re: Elac Debut 2.0's hitting the street
« Reply #7 on: 10 Aug 2018, 04:57 pm »
Anyone heard a pair of these yet?

apstoltz

Re: Elac Debut 2.0's hitting the street
« Reply #8 on: 10 Aug 2018, 07:38 pm »
I have demoed the b5.2 and thought they were quite good for the price. They image very well and have a nice balanced sound. i have never heard the original series so I cannot do a direct comparison.

Bwanagreg

Re: Elac Debut 2.0's hitting the street
« Reply #9 on: 10 Aug 2018, 08:02 pm »
I heard the B6.2's at Axpona this year. Smooth sound and nice imaging. They cost much less than almost everything else on display at the show, and sounded good.