[vitalii427]

Hello guys!

Vitalii

[FullRangeMan]

Welcome aboard Vitalii

[richidoo]

I've already spent lots of money on this hobby and feel like I'm going in the wrong direction.

Hmmm, that sounds familiar. 

Welcome to AudioCircle Vitalii!

[FullRangeMan]

feel like I'm going in the wrong direction. Hope you guys can help me.

Interesting, what you dont like in your system?

[mr_bill]

We all feel that way ........and it never ends

[dB Cooper]

Welcome to the sweet spot, Vitalii.

[vitalii427]

Interesting, what you dont like in your system?

It's a tough question. Maybe that it costs much but not satisfying me enough. It seems I have crossed the comfortable threshold for the cost and don't want to go any further. My disappointment in the high-end market (with all those ten grand cables and magic stones) made me look for other approaches. I want better sound for less money and I know this possible. I've started a new route recently.

About me:
I'm 31 yo. Live in Kiev, Ukraine. My business is more about IT.
I have some EE background, but I'm not a hardcore objectivist. I like good music, new technologies, true engineering and convenience. Even so have some preference for R2R DACs and sometimes tubes. But really hate the idea to flavor the system with cables.
My goal was and still is to have music & movies in one system, but music definitely at the first place. At the time, I'm learning DRC with Acourate. And trying to understand what exactly modern class-D amplifiers can offer.

Here is some details of my main system progress over last 5 years. Components in brackets is mostly for cinema. Significant upgrades is bold. This is the family living room designed with some treatment for HT.

2013:
Speakers: B&W 802 D2 (2x 805 D2 surround, HTM4 D2 center, DB1 sub)
Digital Sources: Classe CDT-300, Oppo BDP-95, Playstation 3
Pre/pro: Classe SSP-800
Amp: Classe CA-5300

2014:
Speakers: B&W 802 D2 (4x HTM4 D2 surround, HTM2 D2 center, DB1 sub)
Digital Sources: Classe CDT-300, Oppo BDP-103, Playstation 4
Source/Pre/pro: Classe CP-800 Mk2 (Classe SSP-800)
Amp: 2x Classe CA-M600 (Classe CA-5300)

2016:
Speakers: B&W 802 D3* (4x HTM4 D2 rear/surround, HTM2 D3 center, DB1 sub)
Digital Sources: Classe CDT-300, Oppo BDP-103, Playstation 4 Pro, nVidia Shield
Source/Pre/pro: Classe CP-800 Mk2 (Classe SSP-800)
Amp: 2x Classe CA-M600 (Classe CA-5300)

*802 D3 is really more of a sidegrade

And in 2017 there were the most significant changes soundwise. Now I have to live more in another place and decided to make a separate room more suitable for audio. Something more like a man's cave. And I bought new speakers YG Hailey and some Schiit gear. Part of the equipment I took out from the first system. The room treatment is not ready yet. And still no subs.

But there's one more thing. While I looked for the recommended amplifiers for YG, I accidentally discovered one more pair of stunning speakers - JBL 4367. They sound much different than most of those hi-end speakers (YG, Wilson, Revel, Sonus Faber, Focal, Dynaudio) I listened to. Despite the fact that YG has certain advantages, JBL gives me more pleasure. It is difficult to describe why. Maybe because they are fairly easy to drive. Maybe it's the waveguides/horns. Maybe I'm not so much into those audiophile sound. To this discovery I was prompted by the story of Michael Lowe (known as dallasjustice on another forum).

2017:
Speakers: YG Hailey, JBL 4367
Digital Sources: Classe CDT-300, Oppo BDP-103, RasPi+Allo DigiOne for Roon, Playstation 4 Pro, nVidia Shield
Ddc: Schiit Eitr, Mutec MC3+USB
Dac: Schiit Yggdrasil
Pre: Classe CP-800 Mk2, Schiit Saga, [borrowed McIntosh C2600]
Amp: 2x Classe CA-M600, [borrowed 4x McIntosh MC601]

[JakeJ]

Hello and welcome to AC, Vitalii427.

[Phil A]

Welcome!

[FullRangeMan]

Vitalii, if your room is small under 15M² you would try a small tube amp and a bass reflex single fullrange driver, if Alnico magnet better.

If your room is larger you could try a two way OB panel witn a 15'' woofer as Alpha15A or PAP15NEO and a sole FR driver as Visaton B200, Audio Nirvana Classic Alnico or Alpair, avoid full xover, use nothing for full Harmonic content or only a air core 4.7mH inductor, also avoid 3ways OB panels.

[vitalii427]

Vitalii, if your room is small under 15M² you would try a small tube amp and a bass reflex single fullrange driver, if Alnico magnet better.

If your room is larger you could try a two way OB panel witn a 15'' woofer as Alpha15A or PAP15NEO and a sole FR driver as Visaton B200, Audio Nirvana Classic Alnico or Alpair, avoid full xover, use nothing for full Harmonic content or only a air core 4.7mH inductor, also avoid 3ways OB panels.

Thanks. Not sure I’m ready yet for DIY Speakers. Not enough time and skills. For now I plan get rid of some expensive equipment and leave 4367(which I got really cheap) to play with them. Maybe active bi-amping with digital xover. All class D or maybe tubes for compression driver. And it's not at all clear what preamp to choose.

[FullRangeMan]

Thanks. Not sure I’m ready yet for DIY Speakers. Not enough time and skills. For now I plan get rid of some expensive equipment and leave 4367(which I got really cheap) to play with them. Maybe active bi-amping with digital xover. All class D or maybe tubes for compression driver. And it's not at all clear what preamp to choose.

For loudspeakers you dont need skills, you need a good experiencied carpenter, usually the seller provide PDF plans and advice.

[ArthurDent]

Greetings & Welcome to AC Vitalii