[WGH]

I long for someone to make a serious, adult, thoughtful Star Wars movie...

That's already been done, Google it: Star Wars XXX: A Porn Parody
I guess you would call this "The Dark Side" of popular culture.

Cassie Murdoch writing for Mashable:
"Turns out there's more than one way to get, errrm, excited about the The Last Jedi coming out...

Porn platform xHamster reports that searches for "Star Wars" are surging ahead of the release of The Last Jedi today. And interest seems to be much higher around this release than other movies in the franchise.

http://mashable.com/2017/12/15/star-wars-porn-last-jedi/#6B3HptZ2Fqq3

And no, I haven't seen it but I used to have a VCR tape of the classic Flesh Gordon in the mid 70's.

[Bendingwave]

Just seen it couple days ago and although it was better then the previous movie it still had the kiddie Disney feel to it with a lot of other shit that would of upset most fans.....I guess if one wants to kill a powerful sith lord just use the ole light saber merry go round trick. LMAO

[thunderbrick]

Don't pass up "Lust in the Dust," a semi-porn satire of Blazing Saddles.  Starred Tab Hunter (yeah, the late 50s heart throb), Divine, and some midgets.  With a lineup like that it can't lose.  Very funny!

[ctviggen]

Just seen it couple days ago and although it was better then the previous movie it still had the kiddie Disney feel to it with a lot of other shit that would of upset most fans.....I guess if one wants to kill a powerful sith lord just use the ole light saber merry go round trick. LMAO

I haven't seen this one, but thought the previous movie was great. 1,000,000 times better than either of 1 or 2 (the later 1 or 2, not the original 4-6).  1 and 2 were so bad, I never saw 3.

[ctviggen]

Finally saw this, and thought it was great.  This is an odd one, as on Rotten Tomatoes, the critics liked it, but the public did not.  I however, loved it.  For me, I suspend my disbelief when watching most movies and movies like this especially.  The only thing I could've done without was the animals with Chewbacca, but my kids (7 and 10) loved them.

[Folsom]

Fav quote from reviews, "We waited 30 years for the return of Luke Skywalker and he comes back timid, living on a planet with frog nuns, not wanting to be a Jedi and drinking from a 4 tit walrus?!"

[wushuliu]

Fav quote from reviews, "We waited 30 years for the return of Luke Skywalker and he comes back timid, living on a planet with frog nuns, not wanting to be a Jedi and drinking from a 4 tit walrus?!"

I don't see what was weird about that. He's a Jedi. That's kind of what they do. The problem with the movie is that there wasn't any real setup in TFA for, well, much of anything so they don't give you time to really process what happened. I understand Hamill didn't like the direction it took because heck he was the hero, but making him Obi-Wan had to happen. Things change. Stories change, and the roles people play change. Star Wars was influenced by Joseph Campbell and I think he would approve of The Hero becoming The Mentor. Of all the issues with TLJ, the one that I had no problem with was Luke. And I mean come on, just like Obi-Wan he will be back in the last movie to guide Rey, etc. Had to happen.

[wushuliu]

In fact I would like to know Folsom, what did you want to happen to Luke? What role did you think he was going to play? I'm curious.

[Folsom]

Did I expect him to die? Sure. But he was the prophecy and the prophecy apparently is meaningless despite 6 movies being made about it.

Were they to source from the books or even a half smart imagination ,there was a LOT OF STUFF THAT COULD HAVE GONE DOWN, and he still could have gone out like Obi.

Fact of the matter to Mark and everyone else is that Luke turned into some deranged anti-jedi character. He no longer embodied anything that was Jedi. It took an absolutely insanely stupid anti-yoda character to talk him into doing anything. Obi on the other hand never turned his back on the force, and never gave up on Anakin. He did go into hiding but he wasn't ashamed of himself for creating Vader, he was sad, and yet still willing to stand for good. Luke went into hiding because he failed to join the DarkSide by killing Kylo. What????? The chosen one was an anti-jedi drinking walrus milk, on a planet where nocturnal penguins come out to cry and wimper to you when you eat one??????? They don't run????? Chewie gives a shit about his food????? Nonsense. Garbage.

[Tyson]

Did I expect him to die? Sure. But he was the prophecy and the prophecy apparently is meaningless despite 6 movies being made about it.

Were they to source from the books or even a half smart imagination ,there was a LOT OF STUFF THAT COULD HAVE GONE DOWN, and he still could have gone out like Obi.

Fact of the matter to Mark and everyone else is that Luke turned into some deranged anti-jedi character. He no longer embodied anything that was Jedi. It took an absolutely insanely stupid anti-yoda character to talk him into doing anything. Obi on the other hand never turned his back on the force, and never gave up on Anakin. He did go into hiding but he wasn't ashamed of himself for creating Vader, he was sad, and yet still willing to stand for good. Luke went into hiding because he failed to join the DarkSide by killing Kylo. What????? The chosen one was an anti-jedi drinking walrus milk, on a planet where nocturnal penguins come out to cry and wimper to you when you eat one??????? They don't run????? Chewie gives a shit about his food????? Nonsense. Garbage.

Maybe Luke was never the chosen one?  I always felt like the 1st 6 movies were really Anakin's story (rise, fall, redemption).  Maybe part of Luke's disillusionment in TLJ is coming to the realization that he was not, in fact, the chosen one. 

That would also explain quite well his viewing himself as a failure and something of a fraud.  The incident with Kylo just reinforced that belief and turned him sour on the entire Jedi structure. 

[genjamon]

+1 Tyson

[genjamon]

Except the Luke of the original trilogy never had an ego to need the hero validation. He was the selfless true believer, called to a cause bigger than himself - a la the Campbell hero story logic. Playing the role of hero and seeing oneself as hero are two different things, and opposed to each other in the hero myth motif.

So TLJ’s biggest error with Luke was completely ignoring that previous arc, and reframing Luke as spoiled brat, not idealistic-but-overall-enlightened-servant.

[Bendingwave]

I agree with Folsoms post......They made Luke out to be a SJW COWARD most likely because the feminist didnt want Luke to out shine the lead female character.

Luke in the Star Wars films is the embodiment of heroism. In the TLJ he should of been given an honerable heroic death.


I would of made Luke sacrifice his life to save rey while fighting the Sith Lord.

[Folsom]

I have to reitterate, how did the "rebels" who had agents all over the galaxies, get dwindled to two dozen people? The empire was massively weakened by the loss of the emporer, but not destoryed... then all of a sudden it is as if nothing happened??? And the empire who was basically omnipotent in these movies somehow let Luke train Jedi's????? No no no no no, they would have to have some kind of foot hold to do so. Nothing makes sense.

Whether luke is "the one" is irrelevent to the horror of these wastes of energy.

[Soupial]

The movie definitely has its issues (Luke's change of character, casino scene) but I still found it to be an entertaining installment of the series. Looking forward to episode ix (and beyond)!