Where will speaker design go in the next 10 or 20 years?

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Marius

Where will speaker design go in the next 10 or 20 years? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dp0GOUp_u40&feature=youtu.be
Audiophiliac, Steve Guttenberg: https://www.cnet.com/news/the-next-step-in-speaker-design-you-room-becomes-the-speaker/

Food for thought.


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Re: Where will speaker design go in the next 10 or 20 years?
« Reply #1 on: 11 Sep 2017, 03:00 pm »
Where will speaker design go in the next 10 or 20 years? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dp0GOUp_u40&feature=youtu.be
Audiophiliac, Steve Guttenberg: https://www.cnet.com/news/the-next-step-in-speaker-design-you-room-becomes-the-speaker/

Food for thought.


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Brain/ear implants will allow music to be steamed into your auditory circuits. No wires. Nothing. A bit like that movie, Minority Report.

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Re: Where will speaker design go in the next 10 or 20 years?
« Reply #2 on: 11 Sep 2017, 03:17 pm »
I imagine wireless tech will continue to evolve and may become mainstream (speaker wires, DAC wires etc).

Then again, not much penetration by any of that in the last 10 years for speakers, though the tech does continue to change.

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Re: Where will speaker design go in the next 10 or 20 years?
« Reply #3 on: 11 Sep 2017, 03:56 pm »
Headphones.  As our listening spaces get smaller and more compromised (poor shape, no isolation, shared), this is the logical solution.

A return to more full bodied, less lean, less tight, less constipated sound as the pendulum of trends swing back.

Active/powered speakers that can take advantage of wireless setups while taking up less space, produce more bass, and use various forms of DSP to "fit the room".

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Re: Where will speaker design go in the next 10 or 20 years?
« Reply #4 on: 11 Sep 2017, 04:01 pm »
The Apple Homepod may offer some portent as to our future direction with speakers. I'm very interested to see what they have up their sleeves. Aren't you?

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Re: Where will speaker design go in the next 10 or 20 years?
« Reply #6 on: 11 Sep 2017, 04:23 pm »
Agree with JLM on both his points. Here is a link to download a report on how 'smart' speakers are affecting the home music market. This segment is growing by leaps and bounds while the high-end market seems to be stagnating while focusing on getting a smaller and smaller number of people to spend more and more on their systems. It's a pretty eye-opening report- and not good news for the 'traditional' component audio world.

Headphones are about the only way to get high end audio performance without spending sums of money that most people consider absurd.

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Re: Where will speaker design go in the next 10 or 20 years?
« Reply #7 on: 11 Sep 2017, 05:41 pm »

Headphones are about the only way to get high end audio performance without spending sums of money that most people consider absurd.

Some of these same people are probably driving cars that cost in excess of $30-50K.
A really fine-sounding two ch audio setup can be had for $20K. Or less. Not pocket change, but the bar has been set too high by the likes of TAS and other periodicals that review uber-expensive gear.

Agree with JLM, but no HP setup will ever get close to the 3D imaging that a floor/near-field monitor can achieve. imho.

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« Reply #8 on: 11 Sep 2017, 06:09 pm »
Where will speaker design go in the next 10 or 20 years? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dp0GOUp_u40&feature=youtu.be
Audiophiliac, Steve Guttenberg: https://www.cnet.com/news/the-next-step-in-speaker-design-you-room-becomes-the-speaker/

Food for thought.


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Marius


We will just download the files straight ino our brain, no speakers needed. Did you see the new movie with Scarlett Johannsen where people have an ethernet port on the back of their neck? :o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4VmJcZR0Yg

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Re: Where will speaker design go in the next 10 or 20 years?
« Reply #9 on: 11 Sep 2017, 06:23 pm »
For recreating "live" sound, headphones will have a hard time replacing speakers, as the realistic reproduction of music is both auditory and tactile/palpable.

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Re: Where will speaker design go in the next 10 or 20 years?
« Reply #11 on: 11 Sep 2017, 07:31 pm »
Hi Folks,

We have looked at wireless active speakers - the BryFi product is our first attempt at a completely wireless playback system

BUT - the problem I see if you still have to supply POWER to the internal amps and such - so you either have an interconnect cable attached to the speaker or you have a power cable. :scratch:

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Re: Where will speaker design go in the next 10 or 20 years?
« Reply #12 on: 11 Sep 2017, 08:06 pm »
Hi Folks,

We have looked at wireless active speakers - the BryFi product is our first attempt at a completely wireless playback system

BUT - the problem I see if you still have to supply POWER to the internal amps and such - so you either have an interconnect cable attached to the speaker or you have a power cable. :scratch:

james

Maybe Tesla can help  8)

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Re: Where will speaker design go in the next 10 or 20 years?
« Reply #13 on: 11 Sep 2017, 08:49 pm »
Maybe Tesla can help  8)

Good one  :thumb:

witchdoctor

Re: Where will speaker design go in the next 10 or 20 years?
« Reply #14 on: 11 Sep 2017, 09:00 pm »
Hi Folks,

We have looked at wireless active speakers - the BryFi product is our first attempt at a completely wireless playback system

BUT - the problem I see if you still have to supply POWER to the internal amps and such - so you either have an interconnect cable attached to the speaker or you have a power cable. :scratch:

james

I see some companies have the amp in one speaker and you run a wire from that speaker to the second speaker. Fine for desktops, terrible for HT ( I have used wireless setups in the past for my surrounds).
Try and have it so the customer can use it in a HT setup as well as a desktop where they can plug the wireless transmitter into the corresponding RCA jacks on the processor for each speaker. KEF neglected to do this for the active LS50 which made it an automatic no go for HT use.

I can manage plugging my surround speakers into a nearby wall outlet but running speaker cables to the back of the room or to another room is just a PIA. I also like the flexibility of using wireless speakers for zone 2 and 3 from your processor.

https://www.lifewire.com/wireless-speakers-and-home-theater-1846770

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Re: Where will speaker design go in the next 10 or 20 years?
« Reply #15 on: 11 Sep 2017, 09:05 pm »
I see some companies have the amp in one speaker and you run a wire from that speaker to the second speaker. Fine for desktops, terrible for HT ( I have used wireless setups in the past for my surrounds).
Try and have it so the customer can use it in a HT setup as well as a desktop where they can plug the wireless transmitter into the corresponding RCA jacks on the processor for each speaker. KEF neglected to do this for the active LS50 which made it an automatic pass for HT use.

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Yes the cable from the one speaker to the other also eliminated the 'timing issues between the left and right speaker (Latency) which is a serious issue.

But I still do not see how we satisfy our high misinformed custom designers unless we put power plugs all over the customers floor to allow for proper placement LOL

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Re: Where will speaker design go in the next 10 or 20 years?
« Reply #16 on: 11 Sep 2017, 09:49 pm »
Hi

Yes the cable from the one speaker to the other also eliminated the 'timing issues between the left and right speaker (Latency) which is a serious issue.

But I still do not see how we satisfy our high misinformed custom designers unless we put power plugs all over the customers floor to allow for proper placement LOL

james

The HT wireless speaker that I see has gotten traction is the wireless subwoofer. I use an Amphony wireless transmitter for my rear height channels and VOG channel. No latency, and works fine running RCA interconnects from it to my speakers. Everything in the back of the room, no long cables running from front to back. This works with my active speakers:

https://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Transmitter-Receiver-Subwoofers-Surround/dp/B00SJ49ZJQ




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Re: Where will speaker design go in the next 10 or 20 years?
« Reply #17 on: 11 Sep 2017, 10:09 pm »
Where will speaker design go in the next 10 or 20 years? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dp0GOUp_u40&feature=youtu.be
Audiophiliac, Steve Guttenberg: https://www.cnet.com/news/the-next-step-in-speaker-design-you-room-becomes-the-speaker/

Food for thought.


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Marius


Walls as the speaker sounds very much like Exciters/Transducers.

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Re: Where will speaker design go in the next 10 or 20 years?
« Reply #18 on: 11 Sep 2017, 10:10 pm »
Steve have a very sane vision on audio equip different from some people that are lost in surround sound:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIKkBgpo75I&t=55

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Re: Where will speaker design go in the next 10 or 20 years?
« Reply #19 on: 11 Sep 2017, 10:19 pm »
I will go with some kind of virtual reality AV experience. It will involve the entire room. A holodeck environment. The only place you will find box speakers will be on craigslist. :D