filter, balance, isolate

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JoshK

filter, balance, isolate
« on: 9 Nov 2004, 09:36 pm »
filter, balance, isolate....I like that, sounds like a Skinny Puppy or Front 242 album.   I figure this is a much better place to talk about how to attempt the clean power problem from the ground up.

If one wants to filter, balance, isolate the power to one's components and one has the ability to start from fresh, including the ability to add dedicated lines, how might one begin?

Gentlemen...

JohnR

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« Reply #1 on: 9 Nov 2004, 11:20 pm »
Use batteries and convert all your components to run off DC? ;)

rosconey

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« Reply #2 on: 9 Nov 2004, 11:21 pm »
"the ability to start from fresh"

build  your own private power plant :o

beat

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« Reply #3 on: 10 Nov 2004, 01:10 am »
Hey guys,
Nothing to add other than I'll be in the same boat soon and was wondering about romex alternatives. Something stranded braided or twisted etc..? Maybe run two legs of 120 to make 240 then use a step down tranny?

Quote from: rosconey
"the ability to start from fresh"

build  your own private power plant :o


a friend of mine told me today he is going to run his big diesel generator to power his house and what doesnt gets used goes back to the city and he gets credit for it. There is potential there to maybe even make some dough. He says the kw/h meter actually starts spinning backwards. Yes, this is the same guy who is making his own diesel outa used veggie oil.

Occam

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« Reply #4 on: 10 Nov 2004, 01:33 am »
Actually, as a DIY hobbyist, there are opportunities to score some really appropriate 'iron' that is not practical for a commercial vendor, due to size, cost, weight....

for example -
http://bgmicro.com/prodinfo.asp?sid=061149305555555669201136182&prodid=PWR1164&page=5&cri=PWR&stype=2&time_out=43:38
allows you to source split bobbin dual primarry and dual  secondary transformers, at rather attractive prices. They have low bandwith and capacitive coupling over the typical toroidal transformer; a very good thing for this application.  But they are substatially larger and heavier; not ideal from a logistics perspective for a manufacturer.

For low current draw source components, this allows us to use a back-to-back configuration where the secondaries are connected with a capacitor linking the phases to provide noise reduction. This is courtesty of Jon Risch.  An ideal way of providing filtering, both common mode and differential, component isolation from both the line and other components given that a pair of these transformers are used per isolated component. It doesn't muck up the ground line with crap it dumps from hot or neutral that will only cause problems for another component.  And even full mains balancing with appropriate derating of the current draw.

JoshK

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« Reply #5 on: 10 Nov 2004, 04:17 am »
I think Occam's idea is just crazy enough to work.  :wink:  Its also cheap enough to be silly not to try.  As soon as I finish up some things on the burner I'm going to give it a shot.

Occam

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« Reply #6 on: 10 Nov 2004, 05:02 am »
Not an original idea from me, but a thread from Jon Risch -
http://www.audioasylum.com/scripts/t.pl?f=tweaks&m=43988

http://db.audioasylum.com/cgi/t.mpl?f=tweaks&m=47160

nor does it address isolation, filtering for higher power consumption units.....