Just dropped off a couple pair of speakers for Danny to work his magic on.

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GregR

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I'm new to the forum but I met Danny back in the early 2000's at a local Home Theater meet-up here in Austin. Just last week I was able to drop off a pair of JM Labs/ Focal Chorus 707 speakers for Danny to work on.  I also dropped off a another interesting project for him. I had and old pair of Meridian M60 powered floorstanders that my father had barely used in his home theater before he passed away. I've had the speakers in storage for the last 2 years and when they went into storage there was a buzzing sound coming from both.  Danny is gonna convert them to non powered and work some of his crossover magic on these classics.  I can't wait to listen to both pair and in the mean time I'm saving to buy one of Danny's OB kits.  He gave me a demo and blew me away with the sound coming from those beautiful speakers in his living room.

Greg

Thanks Danny.

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Welcome to AudioCirlce, Greg.  :beer:

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Welcome to AC.  And if you've been in Danny's living room, you've heard some of the best sound available.  Afternoons at Danny's brought me back to stereo after a long hiatus. 

Phil A

Welcome to AC!

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Welcome to the sweet spot

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Greetings & Welcome to AC Greg   :thumb:

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A warm welcome to AudioCircle Mr. Greg.

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De-activating the Meridians would be a travesty.  Why not put cheap/bald tires and a Yugo engine in your BMW M-3? 

Years ago heard Paradigm Studio 20s versus Active 20s (same drivers/cabinet) and it was jaw dropping.  It was an epiphany (one of a handful in my 40 years at this).  The passive Studio 20s had no dynamics, frequency response was rough, and the bass was extremely weak/shallow in comparison.  IMO the audiophile market that promote use of passives are feeding clueless, floundering zombies. 

Early B.

IMO the audiophile market that promote use of passives are feeding clueless, floundering zombies.

OK, we get it -- you love active speakers, but you're taking it too far. Most speaker designers would probably disagree with you. Even if you were right, there's a million reasons why most audiophiles would still choose passive speakers over active ones, namely due to cost and complexity.   

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OK, we get it -- you love active speakers, but you're taking it too far. Most speaker designers would probably disagree with you. Even if you were right, there's a million reasons why most audiophiles would still choose passive speakers over active ones, namely due to cost and complexity.

Thanks EB.  While I appreciate JLM's apparent experience and insight, the broken-record gets old.  Let's stop beating dead horses around here.  Right now, JLM's answer to every question is "active speakers".  Frankly, most of us are in this as a hobby, which involves experimentation and system-building.  This is much easier with discrete components rather than speakers with built-in amps.  If we wanted active systems, we could use active outboard crossovers.  Besides, the last time I looked I didn't see too many active speakers with SET amps.

I have gone the way of integrated components in the past (and present).  While I appreciate the space-efficiency, I generally regret it for a number of reasons:

1.  Component failure - I have had a number of sections of an integrated component fail while the remainder worked perfectly fine, forcing me to abandon or work around a partially functioning component.  If the amp or crossover in your active speaker fails, you are left trying to rig a solution.  How many of us search for a plate amp retrofit for a subwoofer?

2.  Functional Obsolescence - This is particularly prevalent in the HT world.  While a high-end HT receiver is a great all-in-one solution, the processor section can be rendered useless while the amplifer section is still perfect.

3.  System Flexibility - I currently have three system in operation, with the ability of putting 5 or 6 together with a little effort.  With each stage broken into discrete components, I can mix and match when changing up systems, when components fail, or I simply wish to experiment.

If "active speakers" were the correct answer to every question, there would be far fewer questions asked, and what is the fun in that?  We also must be careful of our own personal bias; most of us have some recency bias, in which whatever we prefer personally at the moment is the "best" solution until, of course, we discover the next "best" solution.

In the history of HiFi, we have constantly "improved" technology, yet some of the most respected and high end systems extant comprose not only technology but actual components of 50 - 60 years ago.

srb

Years ago I heard the Paradigm Active 20 vs Paradigm 20 passive driven by a respectable Rotel power amp for around the same total price (or at least within a few hundred dollars) and I preferred the passive setup.  The active sounded harsher and less realistic to me.  I was not gobsmacked.

I also have owned a low-end active bi-amplified "studio" monitor, the KRK Rokit 5 Gen 2.  That actually turned out to be the worst sounding speaker I've owned.

While active speakers have great potential, the devil is in the details.  If the design and implementation are not spot-on, or the drivers or electronics are of dubious quality, they won't be automatically superior to a passive setup.

Each speaker, active or passive, has to be evaluated on its own merits and end result.  I've not yet heard the JBL LSR305, and it's hard to imagine that $300 of cabinets, drivers and electronics can sound as great as many people have reported, but maybe this particular active is better than any passive combo for the equivalent price, and I'll reserve judgement until I've heard it.  I have a friend who is deciding on a pair so maybe I'll get to spend some time with them.

BTW, in regard to active speakers with internal amplification, it's kind of funny that some of the same audiophiles who spent hundreds of dollars for high-tech footers under their amplifiers for vibration control seem to have no problem with internal amplifiers located inside their active speakers.

Steve