[CanadianMaestro]

 Do you really want to leave the reputation Bryston has worked so hard to achieve subject to the fickle whims of audiophile amateur speaker designers and their favorite wire brand on the day the order was placed? 

*sigh*.

It's not like Bryston will do this blindly with any wire brand. They will likely offer an "SE" version with wire that they have tested thoroughly.

[Don_S]

*sigh*.

It's not like Bryston will do this blindly with any wire brand. They will likely offer an "SE" version with wire that they have tested thoroughly.

That decision has not been made yet and that was not the original question as I understood it.

[James Tanner]

Hi Folks,

Yes the question only came up as a result of some customers asking and our position in the past has been to not offer different versions of our speakers for the reasons a lot of you have mentioned.  And in our investigations if we found a cable we thought performed better we would definitely use it.  So far that has not occurred.

One example is the Signature External crossover version of the Model T speakers uses Air Core Inductors rather than Iron Core as well as specially hand selected Bryston capacitors in the Signature vs the generic capacitors in the standard Model T internal crossover. In blind tests it is extremely difficult to tell the difference. 

james

[CanadianMaestro]

Hi Folks,

One example is the Signature External crossover version of the Model T speakers uses Air Core Inductors rather than Iron Core as well as specially hand selected Bryston capacitors in the Signature vs the generic capacitors in the standard Model T internal crossover. In blind tests it is extremely difficult to tell the difference. 

james

James

These are spec'ed in the model descriptions so buyers know what's in what, right?

Pete

[James Tanner]

James

These are spec'ed in the model descriptions so buyers know what's in what, right?

Pete

Hi Pete

We do not really talk about it that much other than discussing it with our dealers/distributors and customers that are asking about purchasing the Signature vs the Standard version.

james

[CanadianMaestro]

Thanks for clarifying, James.

May have to listen to one of these sometime. 

Pete

[Rod_S]

At a more simplistic level, simple conductivity, copper vs silver. Isn't silver supposed to be better??? If that's the case then James you say if you found a better performing product you would use it then why aren't all your wires silver rather than copper, that is of course assuming that science tells us silver is a better conductor? If it's a cost thing I say cost be damned , I mean how much extra could moving from copper to silver really add to the price given the small wire gauges used inside the speakers?

[brucek]

At a more simplistic level, simple conductivity, copper vs silver. Isn't silver supposed to be better??? If that's the case then James you say if you found a better performing product you would use it then why aren't all your wires silver rather than copper, that is of course assuming that science tells us silver is a better conductor? If it's a cost thing I say cost be damned , I mean how much extra could moving from copper to silver really add to the price given the small wire gauges used inside the speakers?

Silver is pure marketing. Silvers resistivity compared to copper is about 0.94. This is hardly significant enough to justify the rather large cost difference for silver cables compared to copper, especially given the short lengths of internal wiring. Silver as a conductor will exhibit the same inductance and capacitance per foot as copper because this is a generally a function of geometry and not an intrinsic property of the materials used.

[Rod_S]

At this level though isn't that the point, trying to eek out every last bit of performance. If that's not the goal why make something like the Model T's in the 1st place as the lesser models get the job done just fine or even more extreme, when something like Bose gets the job done

Can things go to far, sure because I highly doubt items like $200,000 speakers actually have anywhere near that amount of $$ worth of parts into them, a huge chunk is markup, even when factoring in R&D costs so "snake oil" isn't limited to cables. There's some solid science that goes into different aspects of cables from different manufactures but whether that yields any actual audible improvements can be argued to the cows come home hence the long used snake oil counter argument.

[Big Audio]

Alot of people can't hear a difference when you change settings on an equalizer as well. doesn't mean its snake oil.

I see the anti-wire crowd has hijacked this topic.