Interesting article/ Streaming to ruin Cinema?

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stlrman

Interesting article/ Streaming to ruin Cinema?
« on: 4 May 2016, 06:30 pm »
This was a very interesting read. I would like to hear your thoughts.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/01/movies/in-an-era-of-streaming-cinema-is-under-attack.html

I still like going to the movie theater, sort of, sometimes,  but I usually go when there are less than 10 people in the theater, a few weeks after it comes out. That's the way I like it. No distractions. I like to stretch out a bit. I bring my own snacks, as the theater prices are crazy. I like the very large screen, and big sound. I like IMAX, I like 3d. I like taking my daughter to the theater. But some movies I will wait , skip the theater , and get it on Blu-Ray.
 But now that I got my new 120 inch screen and 1080p , I'm REALLY enjoying my home theater experience. Still not as great as the theater though. IMHO
 So I'm conflicted I guess. I certainly don't want to see Loews AMC go under. Actually ticket sales were up 4 % this year.
They are talking about starting a streaming service to get first run movies in your home ,the day it comes out in the theater. 50 bucks for 48 hours, and $150 sign up fee. I say, let em wait till the dvd comes out.    Will we see an end to Theater experience? Has it already happened? Will the youth of today be watching new movie releases on their phones and Ipads?









Phil A

Re: Interesting article/ Streaming to ruin Cinema?
« Reply #1 on: 4 May 2016, 07:34 pm »
Well - there used to be drive-in movies all around when I was growing up in the dark ages (now there's probably around 300 in the whole US - http://qz.com/235155/there-are-barely-any-drive-in-movie-theaters-left-unless-you-live-in-south-dakota/)

I find my HT is a better experience than the theater.  I've seen one movie in a theater over the past 4 years.  I just think that the cost (tickets plus snacks) combined with convenience (limited running times and also when things are popular certain times when movies are crowded or sold out - particularly crowded and a noisy crowd and you can't pause it too) that the experience is at the point where it is going to start losing out.

Phil A

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« Reply #2 on: 4 May 2016, 07:41 pm »
I also think that there will probably be more theaters with dine in restaurants - http://nypost.com/2014/01/15/movie-theaters-with-dining-options-on-the-rise-in-the-city/

For people who are going out to eat anyway, as long as the food is good, many probably wouldn't mind a bit of a premium built into the food and drink prices. 

Folsom

Re: Interesting article/ Streaming to ruin Cinema?
« Reply #3 on: 4 May 2016, 08:29 pm »
I won't go to the movie theaters with uncomfortable seats. They're hell. But there's one theater at least here that has recliner, reserved, seating. I like it very much. My father won't go to any movies because so many theaters tried to make it like the airlines where you're as squished as can be. He's not fat, he just thinks it's uncomfortable; and I don't blame him after watching Star Wars in some shit seats that hurt.

There just needs to be more better movies playing. That's the biggest issue, going to the theater to see some mediocre stomping parade on my childhood seems to be the theme lately between remakes and real life depictions of cartoons and comics.

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Re: Interesting article/ Streaming to ruin Cinema?
« Reply #4 on: 4 May 2016, 09:07 pm »
A stunning performance is just as riveting on a smaller screen so of course low and mid level budget films that highlight writing and acting will fare better on streaming. An action and sfx film will fare better on the big screen. Couple that with the desire to make films that will be as profitable in china as everywhere else amd youre left with a narrow range of choices.

Lucas and spielberg have said that movies will become more and more luxury experiences with nice seats and 3d etc etc and that is what is happening. Especially while you have marvel star wars and pixar cranking out amazing thrill rides people want to see.

Everything else will be streamed.

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« Reply #5 on: 4 May 2016, 09:12 pm »
On the flip side tiny theaters in small venues will become more popular as a niche event especially in hipper areas. Ironically thanks to digital projection. We humans always crave sharing suspension of disbelief in a sacred space be it 5000 yrs ago or next weekend. Like vinyl it will just become more of a niche.
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Folsom

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« Reply #6 on: 4 May 2016, 09:20 pm »
I would hate myself if I missed Interstellar on the big screen. In no way what-so-ever do I think the experience could be had for that film short of a pretty crazy nice HT.

I'm fine with more small house theaters, or comfortable larger scale ones. Doesn't bother me a bit. But they need to get with the times and offer some better food and drink. If they had something I actually wanted to eat I'd be willing to pay a little more than a typical store to get it. But right now they're charging an absurd amount because they don't sell a lot since there's almost no reason to purchase the most generic shit on the planet from them.

What do people want in theaters? Beer, wine, good chocolate, real butter popcorn, etc... at least it makes sense to me. That or have a yogurt shop in the theater, something of the sort. Theaters with food for old films seems really smart. 

stlrman

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« Reply #7 on: 4 May 2016, 09:42 pm »
Thanks for all the very interesting replies gentleman!

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« Reply #8 on: 5 May 2016, 06:42 am »
This is something I've anticipated and pondered for a few years now, and I think it parallels what has happened with Hi-Fi over the last couple decades.  For most of my life I have been an early adopter.  At college I was one of two kids in the entire residence hall that had a CD player.  Later on I was the first person I knew that had a CD burner.  It's funny- early on no one believed me when I said I burned my own discs! :lol:  But early on I saw that technology as an existential threat to recorded CDs (this before most folks I knew were online).  We all know how that story has unfolded.  The same digital technology that brought us high resolution SACD & DVD-A recordings also brought lossy but tiny files that could be moved even over the pokey dial-up internet of the day.  We stood at a crossroads; extremely high quality or supreme convenience.  Although both exist side by side to a degree I think it's fair to say that convenience has won out.  MP3 won the race to the bottom and it took Hi-Fi with it.  True, there's still a high end and lots of great makers (especially the smaller ones) but overall it's a niche product, a fetish almost.  I know virtually no one under 25 that is into "stereo" (a blanket term that covers the playback of high quality recordings through good equipment).

Will movies follow the same path?  I'm closer to 50 than 40 so maybe I don't have my finger on the pulse of movie industry anymore.  In years past I always had a projector but when my last one crapped out I didn't replace it. LCD/LED sets have gotten big enough that to me it's about a wash.  Maybe someday I'll go back to projection but due to lifestyle concerns I have transitioned to a flatscreen.  I've never been to a theater that could hold a candle to my home system sound-wise, but I find myself going to the theater almost every week for the big screen.  It's more than that of course; I like getting out of the house and seeing it on the big screen. At home there are distractions but at the theater I'm focused just on the film.

But what if all the films were available day-and-date at home in a streaming format?  That's a lot tougher!  My TV still isn't as big (in terms of degrees of field of vision) and the theater.  But I have to admit it would be nice to never have to worry about morons chattering away or flashing me with their cell phone screens.  And pausing if for bathroom breaks would be nice. :lol:

What does this mean for theaters?  I honestly don't know.  Parents will have date nights at the theater as an excuse to ditch the kids.  Some folks will always want to see a big screen.  Some folks have no theater system and value the experience of the XD or IMAX theater.

On the other hand I know people that watch movies and TV on their cell phone by choice. :o  For them the race to the bottom is finished.

If we lose brick-and-mortar theaters what does that mean for movies?  Again, I dunno.  Certainly watching a film would be a very different experience than I have been used to. After all I saw the original Star Wars at a drive in theater!  When I was a kid you could watch a movie at a theater or wait for a heavily edited version to hit TV a year later.  No on-demand, no option to see it again in a year, no streaming and not even videotape until I was in my teens.  But maybe the experience I grew up with isn't the norm for most people anyway.