The Fugliest F4 Clone in the World!

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The Fugliest F4 Clone in the World!
« on: 15 Mar 2016, 02:24 am »
Hello AC'ers!

For Sale: DIY Class A, no feedback, no gain, Impedance Converting Amplifier based on (Firstwatt) F4!

*For those of you who do not know what the basis of this amp is, you need to read the Firstwatt website, so you don't accidentally buy something you cannot use*

Here is the backstory:

A few years ago, I decided I wanted to try my hand at building gear. This F4 was the first (and so far only) piece that I laid out the entire component without help. Yes, you can tell. Also, I built the "chassis" that you see in the pictures. Don't judge (ok, I guess you can), I had no clue!  :oops:

I purchased the signal boards from Peter Daniels, but ended up point-to-point wiring the linear power supply myself. All the parts are very good to excellent. Antek torroid transformer, Dale resistors, Silmic II caps on the signal board and Nichicon KG Superthrough caps in the power supply. The KG caps cost $160 alone and were on sale when I bought them!  This amp does not have balanced outputs, but the RCA unbalanced jacks are Cardas, the 5-way speaker binding posts are WBT.  It has very nice rubber feet from Parts Connection. I did rob the power switch/fuse from an old preamp. It works perfectly.

The internal construction is a bit goofy, no doubt. In the pictures you can see my version of a star ground, and also the banks of resistors in the power supply that are floating above the caps, held in place by the stiffness of the wiring. Like I said, goofy, but it works.

Okay, so the elephant in the room: The chassis is poorly constructed. It does have commercial heat sinks robbed from an old computer power center. The chassis is solid aluminum. While I have holes drilled for hardware of some kind, I never completed attaching the top/front cover. (I kinda liked looking at the interior while it was playing.) It does have one-of-a-kind artwork on the top: FUGLYF4!  :lol:

By this time, you are probably thinking this amp is a joke. I assure you, it is not. The bottom line: This amp is amazingly quiet and sounds terrific. I was using it in "boost" mode, taking the speaker outputs of low wattage tube amps to the inputs of the F4 and getting 25 watts of Class A SS with a tube vibe. The only reason I am selling it is that I no longer have any of those flea watt amps, nor do I have a preamp that will swing the voltage to drive it (See the FW website for a schematic and information on the many ways this amp can be used and the preamp requirements). The clone F4 does run hot--like is it supposed to do--and this one is larger and differently shaped than a FW F4. I have no way to know, but I am guessing my power supply is stiffer than any other you may see, as it is certainly overbuilt.

I want to sell this amp to a good home. Preferably to someone familiar with building Pass/FirstWatt DIY gear. I am not going to embellish the chassis, it works, but you will have to attach the front/top.

This is pick up only, as it would not survive shipping in one piece (The caps are glued down to the bottom plate with hi-temp silicone.) I live in Bloomington, Indiana, and work in Indianapolis, so I could bring it either place. I may be at AXPONA 2016, but only on Friday.

Price, as is, $475.00 USD. Cash, US Postal Money Order or Pay Pal + 3% surcharge


Pics are not too good, I'll add some more soon. Thanks for looking!!!












adamaley

Re: The Fugliest F4 Clone in the World!
« Reply #1 on: 15 Mar 2016, 09:37 am »
GLWS.  :thumb:

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Re: The Fugliest F4 Clone in the World!
« Reply #2 on: 17 Mar 2016, 11:50 am »
Thanks adamaley!


Lowered price to $425.00


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Re: The Fugliest F4 Clone in the World!
« Reply #3 on: 21 Mar 2016, 01:33 am »
some addition pictures and another price reduction to $395.00
















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Re: The Fugliest F4 Clone in the World!
« Reply #4 on: 23 Mar 2016, 08:51 pm »

I would entertain a flat trade for a Audio Note Ongaku.  :lol:


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Re: The Fugliest F4 Clone in the World! New price!
« Reply #5 on: 2 Apr 2016, 04:14 pm »
What no AN owners willing to trade?  :o

If anyone wants, I can send a video via sharefile showing the amp in operation.

This is a fantastic amp for the money, as long as you have a proper preamp. If you are a Pass diy guy (or girl) you could probably tweak it into a different Firstwatt configuration. Not sure though.

PRICE LOWERED TO $325.00!

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Re: The Fugliest F4 Clone in the World!
« Reply #6 on: 3 Apr 2016, 10:53 pm »
would possibly trade for excellent quality XLR to XLR interconnects. Two sets preferred.

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Re: The Fugliest F4 Clone in the World!
« Reply #7 on: 27 Mar 2017, 11:54 pm »
Bump, bump, bump...

I am still interested in selling or trading this unit, especially to someone who has a bit of DIY experience  (I would prefer that). The top lid is still not fastened on, but I always ran it open anyway. I'm just like that... :o

Seriously, this amp sounds fantastic if you have a proper preamp and efficient speakers. Dare I say it would be a serious bargain at the price of $300.00 (or trade for top notch XLR ICs or power cord with original MSRP of $500+ ).  Again, I will not ship, but can bring it to AXPONA this coming April.

Shoot me some ideas. I don't want this fine amp to go unloved.

Cheers,
Gary

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« Reply #8 on: 1 Apr 2017, 12:46 am »
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Re: The Fugliest F4 Clone in the World!
« Reply #9 on: 7 Apr 2017, 01:39 am »
Bump for pickup on aisle AXPONA!

Shirley someone would pay $300 beans for a great amp and have it delivered!  :thumb: :scratch:

Trades for excellent XLR's are on the table. (Or for a nice rack, TS!)


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Re: The Fugliest F4 Clone in the World!
« Reply #10 on: 13 Apr 2017, 08:48 pm »
bumpppppppppppppppppppp!


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Re: The Fugliest F4 Clone in the World!
« Reply #11 on: 14 Apr 2017, 06:26 pm »
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