The Ultimate Vinyl Rip

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The Ultimate Vinyl Rip
« on: 31 Dec 2015, 06:04 pm »

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Re: The Ultimate Vinyl Rip
« Reply #1 on: 31 Dec 2015, 07:27 pm »
Why would any vinyl lover be interested in fake vinyl sound from a CD?

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« Reply #2 on: 31 Dec 2015, 07:34 pm »
Dave, FWIW I have a number of ripped Stockfisch dsd files and IMHO they are some of the best sonics I've heard!

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Re: The Ultimate Vinyl Rip
« Reply #3 on: 1 Jan 2016, 03:29 am »
Why would any vinyl lover be interested in fake vinyl sound from a CD?

I don't do vinyl, but some of the best sounding recordings I have are vinyl rips to high rez PCM... of course a few are really bad too, but the good ones you can't even tell it's vinyl, it just sounds "right"... a couple of Pink Floyd and Yes albums I have rips of are just great.


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« Reply #4 on: 1 Jan 2016, 07:38 pm »
I don't do vinyl, but some of the best sounding recordings I have are vinyl rips to high rez PCM... of course a few are really bad too, but the good ones you can't even tell it's vinyl, it just sounds "right"... a couple of Pink Floyd and Yes albums I have rips of are just great.

Fair enough and makes sense for those who don't do vinyl. Michael Fremer makes 24/96 rips of vinyl and has compared them to digital versions and the vinyl rips are better most of the time, but not always. I have an Alexis Masterlink 9600 that can make red book and 24/96 rips of vinyl. I have ripped a few albums that were never released on CD so I could have them on my iPod.

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« Reply #5 on: 1 Jan 2016, 09:22 pm »
Fair enough and makes sense for those who don't do vinyl. Michael Fremer makes 24/96 rips of vinyl and has compared them to digital versions and the vinyl rips are better most of the time, but not always. I have an Alexis Masterlink 9600 that can make red book and 24/96 rips of vinyl. I have ripped a few albums that were never released on CD so I could have them on my iPod.
So how do you rate your rips from vinal??   I know that is just for the convince.   I heard the word I pad  at your house but never heard it. :thumb:
And that is WY you are Vinal Lady and I'm not.  Alan

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« Reply #6 on: 1 Jan 2016, 09:57 pm »
Before I paid that much for a source that is incompatible with everything but a SACD player it would have to be also available as a native format DSD 128 download. Theoretically there is potentially high frequency content on the record that could benefit from the full 24 bits at 20kHz and the noise spectrum being twice as far away that DSD 128 format gives you to make it worth committing twice the storage space to the music.
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« Reply #7 on: 1 Jan 2016, 10:06 pm »
Speaking as a vinyl user, I would much rather have a DMM record to play than a SACD made from a needle drop. I like having control of what phono cartridge, TT and phono stage I listen to as I have spent years tweaking the sound of the vinyl rig to be synergistic with the rest of my system. A SACD from a foreign vinyl rig has a fair chance of being less than compatible with the rest of my system.
No sale.
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« Reply #8 on: 1 Jan 2016, 10:17 pm »
So how do you rate your rips from vinal??   I know that is just for the convince.   I heard the word I pad  at your house but never heard it. :thumb:
And that is WY you are Vinal Lady and I'm not.  Alan

I haven't listened to them on the main system so I don't know how to rate them. Had no interest in comparing them or listening to them except on the iPod. The iPod is the Classic (160GB). All of the music on it has been ripped into iTunes as AIFF files. It is for airplane travel and working out. I listen through Shure 535SE in-ear monitors.

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« Reply #9 on: 2 Jan 2016, 12:43 am »
Speaking primarily as a vinyl listener I couldn't imagine being without a decent digital recording set up.  I would not be very interested in buying someone else's needle drops, no matter how well made.  But I do consider the ability to make my own high quality needle drops essential.  To that end I have a Universal Audio USB 3.0 recording interface, Avid Pro Tools, and a decent set of studio monitors.  Most of the stuff I do needle drops of are 1950s jazz LPs that might have some minor pressing defects.  So I will capture the audio in 24Bit/192KHz PCM and then use some tools to clean up up the pops and clicks to produce a very clean set of uncompressed audio tacks.  Then I encode them with FLAC and they go on my PC music drive so I can play them on my system using J-River Media Center.  While one might ask why not just find a better pressing, with a lot of the stuff that interests me better pressings are not always readily available and usually when they can be found they are cost prohibitive.

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« Reply #10 on: 2 Jan 2016, 01:38 am »
Jerome, which Apollo interface model are you using?
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« Reply #11 on: 2 Jan 2016, 01:52 am »
It's the Twin Duo, and it's Thunderbolt not USB...sorry for the error.  Sometimes I get my Mac and PC stuff confused.  :duh:

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« Reply #12 on: 2 Jan 2016, 03:04 am »
Nuts, PC user.
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« Reply #13 on: 2 Jan 2016, 03:10 am »
Don't despair.  A PC version is due out by the end of January.

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« Reply #14 on: 20 Feb 2016, 03:46 pm »
I decided to move my vinyl capture setup back to a PC.  I have been doing more and more vinyl rips and using my Mac Book to do a lot of work turned into a pain to be constantly setting it up and tearing it down.  And instead of waiting for the Apollo Duo USB version I bought a PreSonus Studio 192 USB.  I also bought a nice pair of Pro Studio Monitors to go with it, which allows me to check quality without having to run connections back to my main rig.  The Yamaha HS8 is a surprisingly good sounding powered speaker, and will accept balanced connections from the PreSonus 192.



Scotty, if you see this and want to check out the results I am getting I can provide you with a couple of 24bit/192KHz sample captures that I made with the PreSonus 192 USB.  Drop me a PM if you're interested.

I have been very pleased with the results so far.  The PreSonus comes with Studio One 3 Artist but I found that software a little cumbersome and difficult to use.  So I am using Adobe Audition CC 15 instead.

--Jerome