would this monster make a good ac conditioner?

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beat

would this monster make a good ac conditioner?
« on: 22 Oct 2004, 02:23 am »
maybe I should say Beast in order to not get sued :o

Hey all,
as if the title wasnt enough.....
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3844245246

the reason I ask is cause there is one in town I can pick up for 80 bucks..it weighs a ton!!!!!

mgalusha

would this monster make a good ac conditioner?
« Reply #1 on: 22 Oct 2004, 02:31 am »
Mighty serious piece of gear there. There is one big problem that I see, the seller lists the power requirement as 90-130Volts@ 60Amps. You would have to have a special circuit installed. I've never seen a 120 circuit that is rated for 60A but I suppose the do exist.

beat

would this monster make a good ac conditioner?
« Reply #2 on: 22 Oct 2004, 03:35 am »
Oh yeah,
didnt catch that..I wonder if it is a typo. 60A? is that even possible? I'll look at that one here to confirm.

mgalusha

would this monster make a good ac conditioner?
« Reply #3 on: 22 Oct 2004, 04:14 am »
It's possible. The seller said it was capable of a 5KVA output. If it was 100% efficient (which it can't be) that would require nearly 42 amps at 120V.   :o

ooheadsoo

would this monster make a good ac conditioner?
« Reply #4 on: 22 Oct 2004, 04:17 am »
Doesn't that mean up to 60 amps?

WerTicus

would this monster make a good ac conditioner?
« Reply #5 on: 22 Oct 2004, 06:40 am »
well if your not drawing full power out of it it wont need all the amps will it?

JoshK

would this monster make a good ac conditioner?
« Reply #6 on: 22 Oct 2004, 01:44 pm »
Quote from: WerTicus
well if your not drawing full power out of it it wont need all the amps will it?


That is my thought.  If you ran a 30amp line to it, i'd bet that would be more than sufficient for our audio purposes.

beat

would this monster make a good ac conditioner?
« Reply #7 on: 22 Oct 2004, 04:31 pm »
Thanks guys,
Any guesses on how to get the power out of the thing? I see the line in, but no outlets.

ooheadsoo

would this monster make a good ac conditioner?
« Reply #8 on: 22 Oct 2004, 05:26 pm »
I've also heard that there is a great chance that these big industrial units can HUM.

R_burke

would this monster make a good ac conditioner?
« Reply #9 on: 22 Oct 2004, 06:05 pm »
Hum would be my concern also.

I've been around industrial equipment like this in labs and it wouldn't work well in a listening environment.  Don't know about this specific piece of equipment, just this type of equipment.

jackman

would this monster make a good ac conditioner?
« Reply #10 on: 22 Oct 2004, 06:09 pm »
I didn't get that one, but bought an industrial power conditioner a while back.  It hummed so loud that I had to return it to the seller.  It was a tough lesson because it was about 50lbs. and I had to pay shipping back to California.  

Tried everything to deaden the hum, insulation in the case, tightening the screws and using loctite, etc.  Nothing worked.  It sounded like 1000 bees were encased in a steel box.  Not good.   Also, the seller said it ran "Quiet"...although his version of quiet and mine were a long way apart.  

Good luck,

Jack

beat

would this monster make a good ac conditioner?
« Reply #11 on: 22 Oct 2004, 06:23 pm »
UHH Yes,
humming would be a little counter productive, eh? Thanks for the heads up, y'all. Being so huge, I wonder if I could put it inline further up stream by the breaker box?

Ulas

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would this monster make a good ac conditioner?
« Reply #12 on: 22 Oct 2004, 07:45 pm »
Exactly what power problem are you trying to solve? As I read the description, the Sorensen is a voltage regulator and not a conditioner. In addition to audible hum, the unit could add high frequency crap on the AC line, but the voltage level would be rock steady. In my experience, hifi gear is more sensitive to AC line noise than minor voltage fluctuations. YMMV.

OBF

would this monster make a good ac conditioner?
« Reply #13 on: 22 Oct 2004, 11:34 pm »
The Elgar 6000B series can be found very cheap on ebay, sometimes less than $100 for a $2,000 piece of lab gear.  It's both a voltage regulator and line conditioner.  The fan is the biggest problem but can be replaced.  It does hum quite a bit, but I really think it depends on your tastes/usage.  It could be placed further away from the listening area with an extention box.  Also, I listen to music loud enough that I can't hear it.  I don't hear it watching movies either and it doesn't produce any noise at the speakers.  I could see it being a problem for someone who listens to music at very soft levels, but not normal listening.

beat

would this monster make a good ac conditioner?
« Reply #14 on: 23 Oct 2004, 04:04 am »
Thanks again,
Ulas, I'm not trying to solve any particular problem. just looking for good tweaks.. and clean power I figured could do nothing but help.
OBF, It looks like a similar piece of gear. I bet they would perform similarly. I will research more.