The Hateful Eight

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The Hateful Eight
« on: 25 Dec 2015, 09:28 am »
I've been anticipating seeing this for a year.  The movie reminded me of Django Unchained in that there was a lot of character build up for the first 3/4 of the movie.  The cast of characters was excellent as was the acting and cinematography.  In the last 30 minutes you will be asking yourself if there's going to be an explanation about what transpired.  I won't say.

The 70 mm production is awesome.

Good to great movie IMO, but I'm a fan of Terintero's work.   :thumb:

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Re: The Hateful Eight
« Reply #1 on: 25 Dec 2015, 09:50 am »
Good to great movie IMO, but I'm a fan of Terintero's work.   :thumb:

A big enough fan to call him Tarantino?  ;)

Seemed to be constructed from pieces of several of his previous movies.  I was a bit surprised that with nearly 3 hours of storytelling, the back story had to be explained with step-by-step narration.  Not sure that I would watch this one a second time, but I would probably say that about most of his movies, as opposed to say, Coen Brothers movies.

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« Reply #2 on: 25 Dec 2015, 03:22 pm »
There are a couple of his movies I have watched many times over (Pulp Fiction, Reservoir Dogs, and Jackie Brown).   Since those, I have found his movies OK.  Overhyped for sure, but OK.

This one was interesting.  I enjoyed the characters, and seeing familiar faces from his older films, and I felt all did a credible job.  His love of foul language continues (does not bother me, but no doubt polarizing).

It's good, but but not great for me. 

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« Reply #3 on: 25 Dec 2015, 04:31 pm »
There are a couple of his movies I have watched many times over (Pulp Fiction, Reservoir Dogs, and Jackie Brown).   Since those, I have found his movies OK.  Overhyped for sure, but OK.

This one was interesting.  I enjoyed the characters, and seeing familiar faces from his older films, and I felt all did a credible job.  His love of foul language continues (does not bother me, but no doubt polarizing).

It's good, but but not great for me.

What's the violence like?  His movies to me have too much violence.

srb

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« Reply #4 on: 25 Dec 2015, 06:01 pm »
What's the violence like?  His movies to me have too much violence.

10/10 (violence, that is).  Even more blood than Django Unchained!  I will say this -- the man does know his blood squibs and isn't afraid to use them, and the effects and makeup people worked overtime on this one.

Aaah, lovely Jennifer Jason Leigh!

mcgsxr

Re: The Hateful Eight
« Reply #5 on: 25 Dec 2015, 06:04 pm »
Similar to Kill Bill.  It is stylized violence, but gory. 

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Re: The Hateful Eight
« Reply #6 on: 25 Dec 2015, 06:18 pm »
He's a good stylist but his stories are sophomoric and the foul language and violence grossly repetitive and meaningless. Jejune pieces of crap; after seeing three of them (one not knowing he did it), I won't watch another.
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« Reply #7 on: 25 Dec 2015, 08:19 pm »
His movies were interesting for a while.  They don't interest me now. 

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« Reply #8 on: 28 Dec 2015, 04:39 pm »
"Good to great movie IMO, but I'm a fan of Terintero's work"....

I'm sorry but that is the funniest thing I have heard in a long time... Yeah, I love the old Dirty Harry movies but then again I am a fan of Clit Eatinwood....

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« Reply #9 on: 4 Jan 2016, 09:10 am »
Just saw it tonight.  On many levels it was a triumph, certainly some of the best work he has yet done.  So far in my mind only done one 'complete' movie in the sense that it hung together right until the end.  Again with the Hateful Eight he falls just short of perfection- he just can't seem to stick the landing.  Like Django Unchained it comes apart a bit toward the end and the unmoored bulk of it shambles toward the finish line. Ah, but the best parts are so good!  I admire how Tarantino teams again with many of the same actors, with each performance finding another layer of meaning and subtlety (yes, that word can be used in conjunction with Tarantino! :lol:).  With each effort together they seem to become more comfortable and inhabit the world even more convincingly.  Pretty much every performance in the film is fantastic.  Indeed, the only parts that fall flat are the director's own forced voice-overs and his habit of falling back on hackneyed tropes and tired cliches.  I suppose to an auteure like QT it can be fairly said that it's homage, a winking love letter to film itself. Still it feels a bit gratuitous like a comedian laughing at his own joke before he tells it.  Too clever by half.

Minor quibbles though!  The film is very entertaining, and on many levels perhaps his best to date (note:  Reservoir Dogs remains my favorite, though).  It's incredibly violent and liberally peppered with profanity, so be warned if you're offended by that.  Otherwise highly recommended. :thumb:

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« Reply #10 on: 4 Jan 2016, 03:02 pm »
Yeah, I wish I had realized it was a Tarantino movie before I bought my ticket.

While a lot of people seem to enjoy the "rawness" or "irreverence" of randomly mixing elements of comedic comments with graphic violence (& he repeats this formula in most of his films), I'm not among them

I remember thinking "Oh look, he's telling the same type of story he usually tells, but the setting is the Old West". About the only thing I found enjoyable was the Cinematography. I thought the Panoramic scenes were pretty compelling !

I believe when I saw that it was a Tarantino film in the beginning credits my reaction was "Ah crap ,,, Maybe he's finally developed a little more maturity & mental sophistication" I really don't have to give you the answer to that, do I ?

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« Reply #11 on: 4 Jan 2016, 04:23 pm »
The last really good piece of writing for QT for me was the one with Brad Pitt about corralling Hitler at a theater in Paris.  On all count's, that one.  This latest one just looks like sophomoric drivel.

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« Reply #12 on: 4 Jan 2016, 06:42 pm »
   First off........  I was thinking this was going to be some kind of "Magnificent Seven" homage.Nope. If you did not see this film in the 70mm format you missed out on something special. Mr. T tried to recreate the original  "Cinerama" experience,with the Musical introduction as a prologue,the souvenir booklet and the intermission. I fondly remember this whole shebang from the original showings of "Around the world in 80 days" and "How the West was won" both indelible cinematic experiences at the curved screen Cinerama dome in Hollywood. I have to believe that other filmmakers are hot to trot on this format,given the big screens that are available. Mr. T  gets a big high five on creating a great movie experience and clearly the audience was engaged at the more than half full noon showing on New Years Eve.
     Does the film equal the "experience" ?  The first hour is about as good as it gets, sets the story up, and we are in no hurry to get out of the incredible snowy landscape of Wyoming,actually filmed in Colorado.
This is where the writing is good and the characters are fleshed out. Kurt Russell does his John Wayne (Rooster Cogburn) and Samuel Jackson is his usual character that seems to work in any setting.Nobody has the giddyup in delivering a line like Jackson.The master shots and music really make the intro soar.
    When we do get to the destination and start to meet the other characters and the plots continues to unfold i am thinking...this is the "Petrified forest" without the Bogart/Duke Mantee character! There are nice touches here on the interior shots that create tension and make it feel like a good dramatic stage play.
    Intermission....the buzz is high to get on with the story....The second half opens with Mr.T's voice over "explaining" the movie to us. This is the first derail and as the story does unfold we are smack dab in the middle of an Agatha Christie type mystery plot that tries to make right the promise of the first half.
    The second half is pure "Tarrentino land",characters that seem oddly out of place,bizarre flashbacks and lots of goopy stuff flying everywhere as the cast quickly shrinks. Why this director thinks we need a ongoing update on his own film in progress puzzles me,and it is the thing that makes this film eventually stumble.

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« Reply #13 on: 4 Jan 2016, 06:47 pm »
Yeah, I wish I had realized it was a Tarantino movie before I bought my ticket.

While a lot of people seem to enjoy the "rawness" or "irreverence" of randomly mixing elements of comedic comments with graphic violence (& he repeats this formula in most of his films), I'm not among them

I remember thinking "Oh look, he's telling the same type of story he usually tells, but the setting is the Old West". About the only thing I found enjoyable was the Cinematography. I thought the Panoramic scenes were pretty compelling !

I believe when I saw that it was a Tarantino film in the beginning credits my reaction was "Ah crap ,,, Maybe he's finally developed a little more maturity & mental sophistication" I really don't have to give you the answer to that, do I ?


Maybe I'm being picky but I don't care for QT for mainly one thing - do the characters drop F-bombs in every sentence that they speak throughout the whole film? I find it so tiring and can't get around it.

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« Reply #14 on: 4 Jan 2016, 07:49 pm »
Mr. T  gets a big high five on creating a great movie experience and clearly the audience was engaged at the more than half full noon showing on New Years Eve.
     Does the film equal the "experience" ?  The first hour is about as good as it gets, sets the story up, and we are in no hurry to get out of the incredible snowy landscape of Wyoming,actually filmed in Colorado.
This is where the writing is good and the characters are fleshed out. Kurt Russell does his John Wayne (Rooster Cogburn) and Samuel Jackson is his usual character that seems to work in any setting.Nobody has the giddyup in delivering a line like Jackson.The master shots and music really make the intro soar.
    When we do get to the destination and start to meet the other characters and the plots continues to unfold i am thinking...this is the "Petrified forest" without the Bogart/Duke Mantee character! There are nice touches here on the interior shots that create tension and make it feel like a good dramatic stage play.

Well put!  The cinematography is beautiful.  I didn't know for sure but I really figured it was Colorado. The stark and foreboding yet beautiful mountains are a main character as is the blizzard itself.   The wonderful score by Moricone is also a main character.  The first part of the film was allowed to unwind slowly, almost lazily, and we are given the pleasure of drinking in the milieu as we get to know the characters.

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« Reply #15 on: 30 Jan 2016, 02:57 am »
Funny, this was stuck on 666 views for a long time . I loved it !! I will see  it again on my hometheater with my wife. Breathtaking cinematography! Fatastic acting ! And a gory Tarintino last hour !

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« Reply #16 on: 4 May 2016, 05:47 pm »
I just watched the Blu-Ray , and all I can say is WOW!! Great quality picture and sound on this BD !!
The wife was pretty riveted as well.

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Re: The Hateful Eight
« Reply #17 on: 4 May 2016, 06:43 pm »
Me and my GF fell asleep twice trying to get through it. 1st half ok, then it just gets worse and worse. Time for QT to find a fresh idea.