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Up until about a month ago, well-recorded, quality-pressed analog-mastered vinyl (note all the qualifiers) had been my preferred medium due to a perceived better sense of organic flow in the classical, jazz, film score, choral, and vocal-standard program that's typical listening fare here, with hi-rez digital that meets the aforementioned production-value criteria sometimes running a close second. Now, with the acquisition of a restored 1970's-vintage analog reel-to-reel deck and some decently-produced prerecorded tapes, vinyl has been nudged to second place, with the "best" digital still just in the money at "show."
Both sides of the discussion have been presented cogently, sometimes passionately, even brilliantly. But we may be in the realm of the undefinable (or unmeasurable). I attend many classical concerts--solo, chamber and symphony, and I play a Steinway B at home. When I ease into my Lazy-Boy for a listening session alone or with friends I naturally want to recreate what I have heard live. I have excellent analog and digital front ends and an overall system that, I blush to disclose, is first rate (both claims, eminently debatable, of course). But rarely do I find myself reaching for my digital source--whether redbook CD, SACD, stored computer files, or hi-rez downloads. When I do, I don't seem to listen very long. OTOH, I can listen to records for long stretches with genuine satisfaction and pleasure. Is it just me? I don't think so.I have the same experience at the homes of my friends. We do a "system hop" on occasion, spending 40 minutes at each place listening to all kinds of music before moving on. Some of the music we are presented is from digital sources; much more (and much more requested) is from vinyl. So, just some vagrant observations to muddy the sound picture even more. I don't believe that those of us who still prefer vinyl are necessarily confused, obstinate or deranged (well, maybe we are, but just not about that). Something is going on that we vinyl-lovers definitely hear but cannot describe in engineering terms. We are forced to use terms like, "more musical," "has a greater sense of ease," "less clinical-sounding,” etc. Not very helpful to the technical community. Sigh! Someday, perhaps we'll all figure it out together.Until then, y'all have a merry, musical Christmas.
sorry, but on a good turntable with a good LP you hear almost no noise (no more than the ground noise floor in a concert hall).ok it cost some money, but it sounds SO much more natural an dynamic than ANY cd. absolutely agree with THROWBACK here.
This is personal opinion and contrary to the laws of physics, unless the Democrats revoked without further notice.The detail here is almost no noise.
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Impressive petition I removed noise this count in favor?
rumble, hiss, higher noise floor in general . . . back in vinyl's heyday, it was regarded as the poor man's way into music at home. Any self respecting audiophile had reel to reel if they wanted fidelity.Vinyl is not only not superior to digital, it's not even near the order of magnitude to compare.The "superiority" is tied to many recordings that were mastered beautifully to shine on that medium which translated poorly to the new digital medium "compact disc." After engineers got used to the better noise floor, higher dynamic range, and the multitude of other benefits digital recording offered, the notion that analog, and especially vinyl, were superior was relegated to quaint notions of a flat earth and bodily humors. All recording is done digitally for a reason. They certainly don't cut to vinyl to capture an excellent recording. That should tell you all you need to know.
