Vampire CCC II twinaxial cable as speaker wire?

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Vampire CCC II twinaxial cable as speaker wire?
« on: 10 Oct 2004, 08:33 pm »
Has anyone used Vampire's twinaxial 22 gauge continuous cast bulk wire as a speaker wire?  It certainly looks like iti might be vaguely similar to Audience AU24 speaker cable.  Yes, no or am I totally nuts?

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Jon L

Re: Vampire CCC II twinaxial cable as speaker wire?
« Reply #1 on: 13 Oct 2004, 01:40 am »
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Has anyone used Vampire's twinaxial 22 gauge continuous cast bulk wire as a speaker wire?  It certainly looks like iti might be vaguely similar to Audience AU24 speaker cable.  Yes, no or am I totally nuts?

thanks
Bixby

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Yeah, you are totally nuts :mrgreen:

Kidding aside, I do not think the exact specs and construction details of AU24 speaker cables are known.  It is not very similar to the Vampire twinaxial CCC you suggest.  The continuous cast part and copper part is similar, but Vampire is solid core copper coated with enamel (like magnet wire).

AU24 speaker wire is somewhat shrouded in secrecy.  I have never seen what gauge it is anywhere.  It is also reported NOT to be solid core.  I have seen references where people saw stranded copper wire wrapped around some kind of a core, likely polyethylene.  The wire is also not enamel-coated like Vampire.  It's supposed to have polypropylene insulation (aka rubber).  It's also not clear whether they twist + and - or do something else.  

All that aside the Vampire CCC copper wire is great cable. I have made both DIY interconnects and DIY semi-speaker cable (for my AKG K1000 earspeakers) with ~19AWG Vampire CCC wire, and I highly recommend them sonically.  For speaker cable use, though, I prefer useing 2 runs of the 19 AWG wire PER leg, which sounds much better to me than one run.  So I strongly suggest experimenting with more than one wire per leg to find the sound you want.  IMO 22 AWG per leg is not going to cut it in the bass and dynamics department Unless you are running high-sensitivity systems.

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Vampire CCC II twinaxial cable as speaker wire?
« Reply #2 on: 13 Oct 2004, 02:18 am »
Vampire also makes a stranded 12awg CCC wire that is excellent for speaker cable.  It has the body of copper with the high frequency extension of silver.  I think this with some Eichmann Bayonet plugs would be a formidable combination.

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Vampire CCC II twinaxial cable as speaker wire?
« Reply #3 on: 14 Oct 2004, 11:20 pm »
Dr. Jon L:

thaks for the diagnosis, I thought I was nuts, and now you have confirmed it.  I knew it could not be that simple.  Oh, well.  

I have  Chri VenHaus Star Quad breaking in right now and like what I am hearing so far.  I need much more time on the wires to make a firm decision.,

I like the audience I heard at the RMAF with the SP Technologies big boys but have given up spending that kind of cash on wire.  I much prefer to spend it on things like amps, Dacs and speakers.

Thanks for the comments.

Bixby