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frankly these speakers are a disaster.
frankly these speakers are a disaster.no consideration for polarresponse or powerresponse.a dome tweeter with 10-15" woofers will never work regardless of crossover (and these have none)woofers running fullrange, adding ever more beaming and distortion.chaos response over the dipole-peak, also into the midrange, ongoing to a monopole dome tweeter with no dispersion control that wont even look like the response coming of the woofer.simplest way to make these speakers "work" is with a waveguide and compression driver, then add a mandatory minidsp for EQ and cross it around 1.3khz 12db.hawthorne heritage is not surprising with design choices like these...
Are you people missing the fact that the drivers are coaxial ?
im sure he means well. thou iv seen alot of credible criticism of speakers and electronics across the internet that do not sit well with owners and dealers etc. just because it's coincident doesn't mean one can ignore the foundation of good speaker design...listening is not necessary with these imo. (but i have tried a few like hawthorne, bastanis, pureaudio project and it didnt work) speaker basics has been understood for a long time, which is why so many in the store look so much alike wouldnt be hard to improve on these, even for a 2-way. but in OB 3-way is a minimum to get it right. or else i would choose a closed box.i would advice purchasing a minidsp 2x4 and play with it and a selection of drivers and waveguides. pretty good learning tool, immediate response in a short time.
That's too bad because I can only recall having two pairs of speakers with measurements like that and let's just say they didn't end up on my favorite speaker list. My ears must have measured something different than the mic.
In some folks minds, creating an open-baffle system is as simple as taking away the box. However, open-baffle designs are actually much more complicated than box designs. I think quite a few audiophiles don't appreciate that.Cheers,Dave.
I'm not sure I follow; are you saying you've had speakers that measured well and sounded bad?
Measurements don't fully inform one of how speakers sound. They're merely an aspect of it. Granted, if the speakers measure well, there's a better chance of them sounding "good" at least to some people. One should never blindly (deafly?) buy speakers based on measurements alone....unless maybe they're to be used in a very controlled environment like a recording studio, where they are more of a tool for the job, rather than an instrument for listening enjoyment.