This is Dick with the HT3's. Jim is mucgh faster than I, however I was trying to find the original photo,s of my setup Jim had sent me when I purchased the speakers. It is no longer active so I am going to try and take some tomorrow and get them posted. The speakers are in like new condition internally and externally. I have tinnitus so they have not had much use recently except for and hour or so at a time. The only external blemish that I have is a small blemish around 1 speakers subwoofer. This was done a couple months after delivery when I had a vibration on the mount and jim sent me a replacement subwoofer. I will be posting a close up photo of this blemish but it is very minor.The speakers also include the grills, which have never been used. If anyone has any questions before I post photo's feel free to ask. Also I am in Phoenix AZ and I didn't save the shipping boxes so will have to be a local buyer. They also have the Black Hole dampening.