I bought these a couple of months ago from the original owner. They were barely used and I have babied them. I moved my system into a small bedroom and listen to small speakers with a 4" woofer, so I am selling these excellent speakers. Stands not included. Will be shipped in original manufacturer's box and packing. 400+ perfect feedback on Audiogon spanning 14 years under username mcp. $250 + shipping/Paypal from 13039.