[G Georgopoulos]

Name me one digital recording with a 105db dynamic range.

lots,but basicly it comes to hardware(better cd players)their specs may go better than that up to 110dB s/n
exceeding even recordings,it all comes down to hardware!..

[Art_Chicago]

lots,but basicly it comes to hardware(better cd players)their specs may go better than that up to 110dB s/n
exceeding even recordings,it all comes down to hardware!..

Seriously? Lots of CD with a dynamic range of 105 dB? Telarc used to do it, but not anymore. if you get 30 dB nowadays from a CD, consider yourself lucky. 20 dB is usually all you get.

[kingdeezie]

lots,but basicly it comes to hardware(better cd players)their specs may go better than that up to 110dB s/n
exceeding even recordings,it all comes down to hardware!..

First off, it is impossible for hardware to add information, dynamics, spatial information, etc, etc, etc, that is not present on the recording. Better hardware can't magically add dynamics that aren't available on the recording. The hardware is in service to the recording, period.

Secondly, I'll agree that it comes down to hardware in the end, but from a different perspective.

There are very little, if any, residential audiophile systems, that could functionally fathom 105DB dynamic range.

Even if your room was super quiet, in the 25-30 DB range, in order to fully realize 105 DB swings, you would have to have a system capable of a clean 130DBS.

Most speakers would compress and distort way before that point, and even if you had speakers that were capable of the volume output, you would need 1000s of watts for any medium-medium high efficiency speaker.

Not to mention, your ears would be screaming in pain at that point, and total hearing loss would be imminent within a short period of time.

So I agree, hardware (and your ears) definitely impacts dynamic range, but not like you would think.

In my experience, most vinyl I have is MORE dynamic then its digital counterpart, because of mastering. Regardless of SNR numbers, you can't fix that.   

 

[Art_Chicago]

In my experience, most vinyl I have is MORE dynamic then its digital counterpart, because of mastering. Regardless of SNR numbers, you can't fix that.   

 

+1

[geowak]

I had a Thorens TD-320 turntable in the '80s. Sony came out with the first commercial CD player and I bought a Hitachi CD player shortly after this, I think around 1985 in Germany. So I had both. The TT sounded much, much better. But DACs were very limiting and the sound was very harsh from CD players. As time went on, I changed CD players about 5 times. From Hitachi, to Sony, to Onkyo, to Sony again and then to Rega. I know own a Rega Apollo and an old Sony ES series. They are both running as transports for external DACs.

As it stands now, the digital sounds much, much better than it did in the 1980s. I know that analog has a sound that I like to compare to the romance of tubes. Not better than digital but a "sound all it's own". So in the end, I think it's what one likes or prefers. I would never say, one sounds better than the other....

[G Georgopoulos]

First off, it is impossible for hardware to add information, dynamics, spatial information, etc, etc, etc, that is not present on the recording. Better hardware can't magically add dynamics that aren't available on the recording. The hardware is in service to the recording, period.

maybe in the future recordings will get better...

[OzarkTom]

Charles is correct, at least 500 hours. Some I have had here took 800-1000 hours.

I have found that if the CD is recorded better, that sounds the best. If the record is cut better, that sounds better. A master tape blows both formats away, not even close. It will make you sick if you ever hear one.

[geowak]

I agree tape blows CDs and TTs out of the water!!! It's not really a topic that needs addressing. With BOTH formats alive and well in 2014 I think it's GREAT! You have the best of both worlds. There are plenty of old record albums and new ones too. Digital audio is in it's infant stage and growing. What is NOT to like! Try one, later try the other....

[G Georgopoulos]

you guys mean digital tape or analog?...

[OzarkTom]

you guys mean digital tape or analog?...

Analog

[loving_it]

I was told by a few Vega Dac owners that I had to let the Vega break in , well today out of the blue it came alive and all I can say is wow . I could not pull my self away from listening . The Vega sure is a special piece

[G Georgopoulos]

I was told by a few Vega Dac owners that I had to let the Vega break in , well today out of the blue it came alive and all I can say is wow . I could not pull my self away from listening . The Vega sure is a special piece

going strong..