What to do with the less than audiophile "spring" connections on the SV Co ax?

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Trismos

Subject line pretty much sums it up. I have these really nice coaxials I'm about to wire up and they have some rather cheap looking connectors. Solder direct? How?

Guy 13

Subject line pretty much sums it up. I have these really nice coaxials I'm about to wire up and they have some rather cheap looking connectors. Solder direct? How?
The V1 Paudio coaxial come with push on spring connectors and that's what I use, not real other way of doing it.
The only 5 ways binding posts are the one use between the crossover and the speaker wires going to the amplifier.
Here are a few pictures of my set-up.
Need more info/pictures, just ask, I will be more than happy to be of some help to you.

Guy 13






Captainhemo

Is there no  bare terminals under the   quick connects  you could solder to ?
Sorry Guy, I couldn't tell from your photo

-jay

Guy 13

Is there no  bare terminals under the   quick connects  you could solder to ?
Sorry Guy, I couldn't tell from your photo

-jay

Hi Jay and Trismos.
This afternoon, I will take some closer pictures of my V1 and try to help more
about a solution to replace those spring loaded (Cheap) terminals.
This is my opinion for what it's worth.
I don't thing the coaxial driver terminal degrade by a lot the sound quality of the V1.
I would be curious to hear a side by side set-up with and without the terminals.
Anyway, I will get back to you later on.

Guy 13

Guy 13


Hi Jay and Trismos.
I took some pictures of my V1 and here they are.
You could solder your crossover wires directly to the coaxial driver; there is a small lug that holds the wires from the voice coil.
Don’t look like an easy job, not for me anyway.
I have butter finger and a huge 100/140 watts Weller soldering gun, but maybe for you, it’s doable.
For the tweeter, unfortunately, can’t be done.
To me the spring connectors make a good contact, even if they look a little dirty from the outside.
For the input to the crossover, everything can be soldered direct.
I’ve use 5 way binding post, but I could have gone direct from the amplifier to the cross over.
I hope this help?

Guy 13








nickd

While I'm not a fan of spring connectors, I never thought for a moment my Super V's were being held back by them. Wire them up and have Listen. :thumb:

Guy 13

Hi all.
My V1 not Super V1 sounds great,
it's just that I prefer the sound of my Omega 7F
with the Eminence 12" woofers.
The V1 is very neutral.
Yes, make all the connections with the original spring connectors
and then sit down and listen,
I am sure you will like the sound of the V1
and you won't want to modify it, anyway,
I think the improvement/modifications are not worth the trouble for the improvement, if there is an improvement ?

Guy 13

bdp24

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Danny is of course very serious about good sound, and feels connections and wire are important to getting it, so hopefully he'll chime in on this topic.

Captainhemo

IMHO,   any improvement  you can get is a good thingl.  Getting  "junk" out of the signal path,  wire  quality,  tube connectors,  etc etc,  all (no matter how small) adds up in the end  .
Granted, I've used  things previously  (I'm sure we all have)  in  the signal path I probably shouldn't have but I am trying to get away from that and keep things as clean as possible.

-jay

-jay

Danny Richie

Subject line pretty much sums it up. I have these really nice coaxials I'm about to wire up and they have some rather cheap looking connectors. Solder direct? How?

Yeah, for really high quality drivers the connections are pretty cheesy. I didn't realize how much of a problem those connections like that were until I started replacing lots of them with tube connectors. Sometimes the improvement can be pretty significant.

If there is any way you can solder the wiring to the woofer terminals on the underneath side and by-pass the binding post all together then it might be a nice improvement. You have to be very careful and very quick with it though as the flexible connecting wire is also soldered to it. You can see it well in Guy's pic. 



The tweeter might be a real problem though. The terminals unscrew, but I don't know what else you'd replace them with. A nice Copper screw would be great, but I don't know of any.

Jonathon Janusz

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Hey!  I think I can actually answer this. :)

I stripped down a super-v coax that kind of. . . died. . . when my living room caved in before throwing the remains in the recycle bin and dumpster.  If you were to unthread the spring post from where it is mounted, you would find a small bolt held with a plastic washer through a hole in the (brass?) flat terminal similar to the one shown in Guy's picture. 

These screwed in connectors do not do anything to secure the covers on the drivers (either the tweeter or the woofer), and the flexible wire going direct to the driver is soldered to the end of the flat terminal with the screw hole in it.  With a little careful work, you could probably remove the solder from the terminal to then solder whatever wire you wanted direct to the driver wires.  Same situation if I'm remembering right on the tweeters under the hood of the milled out cover, just a smaller screw going direct to the mounting tabs attached to the diaphragm.