If I Were A Carpenter... I'd Clean My Vinyl

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bside123

If I Were A Carpenter... I'd Clean My Vinyl
« on: 18 Jul 2014, 03:02 pm »
For those of you who: Like to watch glue dry; Enjoy peeling sunburned skin; Like DIY projects; Aren't really interested in RCMs; or Would like to waste time and money... Here's an interesting way to clean your vinyl record albums.  :thumb:

How big is your collection?

http://digg.com/video/want-to-hear-a-satisfying-noise-clean-your-vinyls-with-wood-glue?utm_source=digg&utm_medium=facebook

Minn Mark

Re: If I Were A Carpenter... I'd Clean My Vinyl
« Reply #1 on: 18 Jul 2014, 03:33 pm »
See;

http://www.analogplanet.com/

Mikey just reviewed three record cleaning brushes (the $25 carbon fiber one faired the best) which IMO is much more sound (no pun intended) advice.

 8)

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Re: If I Were A Carpenter... I'd Clean My Vinyl
« Reply #2 on: 18 Jul 2014, 03:51 pm »
For an in-depth look at this subject there's a 126 page thread over at Karma:
http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=99837

Results look impressive.

The latest is Scrubbing Bubbles.  I kid you not.
http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=349539

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bside123

Re: If I Were A Carpenter... I'd Clean My Vinyl
« Reply #3 on: 18 Jul 2014, 04:05 pm »
As long as we're at it... maybe somebody should try these, and send the results over to AudioKarma: http://efferdent.com/products.aspx

Safe Cleansing Agents
Strong Enough for the Toughest Stains
Bubbles - Effervescent
Anti-Bacterial
Gets in Hard to Reach Places
Leaves Plates Clean & Shiny
Smells Good


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Re: If I Were A Carpenter... I'd Clean My Vinyl
« Reply #4 on: 18 Jul 2014, 07:04 pm »
Tried it once as far as I'm concerned it's PITA.   :wink:

bside123

Re: If I Were A Carpenter... I'd Clean My Vinyl
« Reply #5 on: 18 Jul 2014, 07:54 pm »
Tried it once as far as I'm concerned it's PITA.   :wink:

No doubt!

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Re: If I Were A Carpenter... I'd Clean My Vinyl
« Reply #6 on: 18 Jul 2014, 10:00 pm »
I have used PVA glue (Aleene's Tacky Glue - WalMart craft dept) to clean and rehab many older albums.  It helps if you thin the glue a bit with distilled water.  Just add some to the bottle.  I lay the album on newspaper or a plastic record bag.  Make a daisy pattern of glue on the album and, with an old playing card or thin plastic card, in a circular manner, spread the glue over the grooves.  If done properly, you will have no glue on the raised outer edge of the vinyl nor on the label.  You want a uniform white layer.  Let it dry until completely clear, which takes 8+ hours.  Then, take a piece of scotch tape and stick it on the glue near the label, holding the end of the tape strip in your fingers.  Rapidly pull up the tape, which will pull the dried glue up off the surface of the vinyl.  It might take a few tries, but once you can get your fingers on the glue, pull it off the vinyl.  Any little residue can be pulled up with tape.  And expect pulling the glue to generate some static.  Zerostat helps and doing this procedure on plastic seems to bleed off the charge quicker.

I own an 1/2 speed mastered Nautilus recording of Joni Mitchell that I had quit playing due to noise.  I even wrote "noisy" on the cover.  Thankfully, I didn't throw it away, like I did most of my old albums.  One glue treatment and it sounded like new.  The glue won't save an album made with regrind vinyl or something that is just plain worn out, but it will clean off dust and mold.  I believer the PVA may refresh the vinyl, also.   Yeah, it is a fiddly process, but it works.  Do 3 -4 at once, so it doesn't seem to be a full time job.  Great for used vinyl purchases.

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Re: If I Were A Carpenter... I'd Clean My Vinyl
« Reply #7 on: 18 Jul 2014, 11:14 pm »
I have used PVA glue (Aleene's Tacky Glue - WalMart craft dept) to clean and rehab many older albums.  It helps if you thin the glue a bit with distilled water.  Just add some to the bottle.  I lay the album on newspaper or a plastic record bag.  Make a daisy pattern of glue on the album and, with an old playing card or thin plastic card, in a circular manner, spread the glue over the grooves.  If done properly, you will have no glue on the raised outer edge of the vinyl nor on the label.  You want a uniform white layer.  Let it dry until completely clear, which takes 8+ hours.  Then, take a piece of scotch tape and stick it on the glue near the label, holding the end of the tape strip in your fingers.  Rapidly pull up the tape, which will pull the dried glue up off the surface of the vinyl.  It might take a few tries, but once you can get your fingers on the glue, pull it off the vinyl.  Any little residue can be pulled up with tape.  And expect pulling the glue to generate some static.  Zerostat helps and doing this procedure on plastic seems to bleed off the charge quicker.

I own an 1/2 speed mastered Nautilus recording of Joni Mitchell that I had quit playing due to noise.  I even wrote "noisy" on the cover.  Thankfully, I didn't throw it away, like I did most of my old albums.  One glue treatment and it sounded like new.  The glue won't save an album made with regrind vinyl or something that is just plain worn out, but it will clean off dust and mold.  I believer the PVA may refresh the vinyl, also.   Yeah, it is a fiddly process, but it works.  Do 3 -4 at once, so it doesn't seem to be a full time job.  Great for used vinyl purchases.

Can you tell us what is the size of your LP collection as well as how many albums have you actually cleaned this way? The time/hassle/cost ratio per album? Price of glue? Thanks.

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Re: If I Were A Carpenter... I'd Clean My Vinyl
« Reply #8 on: 18 Jul 2014, 11:57 pm »
Maybe 150?  More every month.  And I have cleaned 30-40 this way.  I don't do this routinely.  Only on something that is so noisy it drives me up the wall.  Or on used purchases, some of which have been filthy.  The glue is less than $3 bottle.  If used properly, you can probably clean at least 10- 12 albums.  Yes, it is a pia.  But it does work.  Now if you have a large record collection (I would have, if I hadn't thrown most of them out for noise), by all means a good record cleaning machine would be worth it.  But is it necessary to do a full cleaning every time you play an album?  Once I have one cleaned with glue, I use a carbon fiber brush followed with an AT fluid type, and then a shot or two with the Zerostat.  Seems to be working.