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« Reply #20 on: 17 Jul 2014, 02:36 pm »

That said, my preference is for the low mass Eichmann RCA connectors. All RCA connectors in my Luminous Audio loom are Eichmann copper or silver RCA's. In the spirit of the forum - Cheap and Cheerful - I readily admit we're talking about a steep curve of performance vs. cost here and one pays a lot for the slight degree of improved refinement a pair of $75 RCA connectors brings compared to a $2.00 set of Switchcrafts.

I'll second Eichmann connectors. Funny thing is, I haven't done sound comparisons. I just LOVE how Eichmann's fit. Their plastic body conforms easily to the female RCA jack in all instances I've tried them. They're never too tight, nor are they loose. They hold with just the right amount of snugness. When given the option, I pay more for IC's to have these connectors.......though their prices have shot up quite a bit over the last 5 years. Stupid economy. They used to be much more reasonable ; Maybe not cheap and cheerful, but not as much of a stretch.

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« Reply #21 on: 17 Jul 2014, 03:28 pm »
I'll weigh in here.  IMO connectors on ICs or speaker cables cannot improve the sound of the cable, they can only harm it.  Therefore I look for three factors:  good fit, neutral (no harm) sound, and fair cost.  I agree that the Eichmanns rate quite highly, if just on the up side of costly (4 for ~ $80).  Fit and sound are superb.  I use the Eichmann Bullet plugs on all my ICs.   

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« Reply #22 on: 17 Jul 2014, 03:56 pm »
I'll weigh in here.  IMO connectors on ICs or speaker cables cannot improve the sound of the cable, they can only harm it.  Therefore I look for three factors:  good fit, neutral (no harm) sound, and fair cost.  I agree that the Eichmanns rate quite highly, if just on the up side of costly (4 for ~ $80).  Fit and sound are superb.  I use the Eichmann Bullet plugs on all my ICs.

4 for $80 I think is just for their standard brass Bullett plugs, I believe. I like the copper ones......though, doing a quick search it doesn't look like the copper Bullets are available anymore? :scratch:
The copper plugs used to be about the price of what those brass plugs run. Maybe I'm getting info mixed up and what Eichmann is calling the "gold" are actually gold plated copper? I could've sworn that Eichmann made 3 types at least at one time (brass, copper, and silver).

Wondering if Eichmann's patent ran out and they aren't producing all the options they once had. There's another, less expensive, version of Eichmann Bulletts over at Parts Connection. :thumb: Interestingly, KLE, stands for Keith Louis Eichmann. Hmmmm....... :scratch:
http://www.partsconnexion.com/connectors_rca_kle.html

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« Reply #23 on: 17 Jul 2014, 04:15 pm »
Oh. Here we go.........Just needed to look harder on the Parts Connexion site. Eichmann did in fact release a new Bullet plug. I'm willing to bet this is due to his patent running out or soon to run out on the original Bullet. To combat the copy cats that would surely take advantage of this he has a new, better, design......and it's less expensive! I might have to snatch a pack or two, before prices go up. :thumb:

http://www.partsconnexion.com/PDF/PCX-press-release.pdf

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Re: Over Priced Products To Steerout
« Reply #24 on: 17 Jul 2014, 06:14 pm »
http://www.amazon.com/GLS-Audio-Locking-Plugs-Component/dp/B000TJSN4C/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&qid=1405547185&sr=8-12&keywords=rca+connector

http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201074230
Thanks for the links. Again appear probs of living in a comunist country:
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Its not Amazon fault.

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« Reply #25 on: 17 Jul 2014, 09:03 pm »
Thanks for the links. Again appear probs of living in a comunist country:
Sorry, this item can't be shipped to your selected address. Learn more. You may either change the shipping address or delete the item from your order.
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Its not Amazon fault.
I know this is frustrating now. :duh:

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Re: Over Priced Products To Steerout
« Reply #26 on: 17 Jul 2014, 09:11 pm »
Now sounds as this is the same prob happen w/PE, I cant figure out details but its sure something with the customs house regards US.
Euro shops dont suffer this prob.

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Re: Over Priced Products To Steerout
« Reply #27 on: 18 Jul 2014, 02:54 pm »
I know this is frustrating now. :duh:
Thinking about it I figure it may be because the brazilian customs open all packages(except CDs, LPs and books) to inspect inside and check with the invoice.

In these opening sometimes a few things are stolen.
The speakers I bought from Gab had its package opened.
Seems PE and Amazon cant agree with opening of packages which is correct.

P.S.: Nice reply I receive from PE about this prob:
Thank you for your reply.  There is no need to apologize!  We certainly wish we could ship to your country, as it is very frustrating for us, as well.  We are hoping for a favorable solution so we are able to offer our products to Brazilian customers in the near future.
 
Kind regards,

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« Reply #28 on: 18 Jul 2014, 03:16 pm »
Hi FULLRANGEMAN.
I understand your problem and sympathise with you.
The same thing on planet Vietnam,
plus here, they copy the CDs, DVD, etc..
And sell copies via their government own stores.
Can I prove it ? You may ask? And yes, I can prove it?
You only have to come on planet Vietnam,
I will show you myself.
I am lucky to have my wife's nephew in Seattle to re-ship
what I have ordered from Amazon and the same.
By the way, you wrote that you got your Omega 7A drivers.
Did you tried them ? ? ?
No, well, what are you waiting for?
We are anxious to read your findings.

Guy 13
 

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Re: Over Priced Products To Steerout
« Reply #29 on: 18 Jul 2014, 03:39 pm »
I glad you lucky to have this relative in Seattle, I havent this lucky.
I would like to pay for it(paypal);

I lazy, no wish to test these speakers I unmotivated lately, but I will do an effort to you anyday.

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Re: Over Priced Products To Steerout
« Reply #30 on: 19 Jul 2014, 02:52 am »
4 for $80 I think is just for their standard brass Bullett plugs, I believe. I like the copper ones......though, doing a quick search it doesn't look like the copper Bullets are available anymore? :scratch:
The copper plugs used to be about the price of what those brass plugs run. Maybe I'm getting info mixed up and what Eichmann is calling the "gold" are actually gold plated copper? I could've sworn that Eichmann made 3 types at least at one time (brass, copper, and silver).

Wondering if Eichmann's patent ran out and they aren't producing all the options they once had. There's another, less expensive, version of Eichmann Bulletts over at Parts Connection. :thumb: Interestingly, KLE, stands for Keith Louis Eichmann. Hmmmm....... :scratch:
http://www.partsconnexion.com/connectors_rca_kle.html

@RDavidson, more information here ... the KLEI website... http://kleinnovations.com/kle-innovations-klei-products/harmony-plug/

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Re: Over Priced Products To Steerout
« Reply #31 on: 19 Jul 2014, 07:59 pm »
@RDavidson, I should have mentioned that I have used the Copper, Silver, and Pure Harmony plugs and TME (to my ears) even the Copper Harmony is much better than the Copper or Silver Bullet.   I am finding that the Harmony RCA plugs make a huge difference to the sound, just like upgrading to a much more expensive CD Player, amplifier, or Speakers, and Bang for Buck are a bargain (cheap) :)

It would appear that the Eichmann Harmony and the Bullet plugs were both designed by Keith Louis Eichmann but the Harmony RCA plug was only released this year (maybe late last year) through his new company Keith Louis Eichmann Innovations (KLEI).  It would appear that he is nolonger associated with ETI :)