Rectifier Tubes

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kleinbje

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Rectifier Tubes
« on: 6 Jun 2014, 06:00 am »
I have been rolling some 6X4's in my phono pre.  One single FW rectifier tube.   It came with an amperex from the 70's, I rolled in a GE from '52 NOS, everything just seemed better.   The amperex had detail, but it was like being at a museum, no groove, didn't rock.  The Ge's were spacious, just huge soundstage, slightly more noise than the amperexs, but damn quiet.  Being shocked at the difference a rectifier tube( afuckindiode!) had on the sound, I ordered a bunch more tubes, the ge was bought just to have a backup in house.  I picked up a sylvania in a yellow box, cant find the date code, I rolled that in last week.  Wow!!  The difference was startling.  The vocals are much more present and "thick", the bass is way deeper, and this is not hyperbole , I am talking resonances where there never were any at the same volume level.  The sound stage is a bit smaller, but still big, it seems to be quieter than the GE.  It really rocks though, it just presents music with more of that x-factor that keeps you engaged.  I have 2 RCA's and another 2 GE's to try, it is really startling the difference in sound between these tubes.  It seems when I changed 6922/7308's in my Chinook the differences were much more subtle, though I was comparing very high grade tubes and my system is much more revealing with the Lamm.  Looking for advice and recommendations

Steve

Re: Rectifier Tubes
« Reply #1 on: 7 Jun 2014, 03:48 am »
I have been rolling some 6X4's in my phono pre.  One single FW rectifier tube.   It came with an amperex from the 70's, I rolled in a GE from '52 NOS, everything just seemed better.   The amperex had detail, but it was like being at a museum, no groove, didn't rock.  The Ge's were spacious, just huge soundstage, slightly more noise than the amperexs, but damn quiet.  Being shocked at the difference a rectifier tube( afuckindiode!) had on the sound, I ordered a bunch more tubes, the ge was bought just to have a backup in house.  I picked up a sylvania in a yellow box, cant find the date code, I rolled that in last week.  Wow!!  The difference was startling.  The vocals are much more present and "thick", the bass is way deeper, and this is not hyperbole , I am talking resonances where there never were any at the same volume level.  The sound stage is a bit smaller, but still big, it seems to be quieter than the GE.  It really rocks though, it just presents music with more of that x-factor that keeps you engaged.  I have 2 RCA's and another 2 GE's to try, it is really startling the difference in sound between these tubes.  It seems when I changed 6922/7308's in my Chinook the differences were much more subtle, though I was comparing very high grade tubes and my system is much more revealing with the Lamm.  Looking for advice and recommendations

The fewer sections of filtering, the more difference the rectifier tube and power transformer will have on the "sound".

Cheers.
« Last Edit: 7 Jun 2014, 01:33 pm by Steve »

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Re: Rectifier Tubes
« Reply #2 on: 9 Jun 2014, 11:47 am »
Hi Steve,
Is the Russian 5C8S a better rectifier than the western versions??
It do 1700V.
http://www.mif.pg.gda.pl/homepages/frank/sheets/084/5/5C8S.pdf

Steve

Re: Rectifier Tubes
« Reply #3 on: 9 Jun 2014, 05:13 pm »
Hi Steve,
Is the Russian 5C8S a better rectifier than the western versions??
It do 1700V.
http://www.mif.pg.gda.pl/homepages/frank/sheets/084/5/5C8S.pdf


If it is used in MIGs, it probably is more sturdy. Can't read Russian, but if one can, is the G rating on the data sheet. From a sound issue, no idea.

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Re: Rectifier Tubes
« Reply #4 on: 10 Jun 2014, 02:50 am »
Fwiw its used in the Lampizator GM70 amp, but not in the Lamp 211 amp which use the 5C3S.