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You've proven that you're a troll, and so I would expect a little boy like you to be reprimanded.
Dale, this is a public message board...if you make a seemingly wild accusation or implication, chances are you run the risk of someone commenting. You asked me what kind of weed I'm smoking, and I'd say it's the common sense weed. The idea that Phillips is trying to hatch some evil plot to secretly train people to prefer Phillips headphones is one that I happen to find a little out there. When there is full disclosure of the company who designed it, the purpose for why it was created, and the choice to participate or not, I'd say it's pretty unlikely that there are any shenanigans going on. I'm not sure I get the comparison to commercials on television, so I won't touch that one.
I don't see what's far fetched about Philips tailoring the response, so differences show up readily on their headphones. Most manufacturers would. Just because you don't have to participate doesn't change that. The fact of the matter is, something like this could be very popular and could be a big selling point for headphones that help people more easily become 'golden ears". Is this strictly a service to audiophools, or is it also a marketing tool? I seriously doubt the former, but I also wonder about the extent of the later. Just compare the timbre anomalies with response curves of different phones. Thanks Dalethorn for pointing that out.neo
Of course it's a marketing tool...why wouldn't ANY business want to promote their products and/or company? I don't know if you've read the info on the site, but it's pretty clear that they offer FULL disclosure of what it is. Case in point (taken from the website): We know that we are not alone in this obsession with sound, which is why we are inviting you to take our Golden Ears challenge.Our unique Golden Ears training program was designed to develop the listening skills of our audio engineers. This online challenge contains the essential elements of our professional Golden Ears training program.I think it's plainly obvious that they are openly stating this is THEIR approach to discerning various aspects of audio reproduction and it's the way they train their own people. The emphasis on "our" was mine, of course, but the point is that it's pretty clear they aren't making any attempt to be devious or try to trick people in some way.
Are you capable of stating anything other than their come-on? What makes you think there isn't a deliberate attempt to make their phones seem more revealing than other brands? Do all phones have the same response curve? Could their ear training program actually be "proof" of Philips superiority? "I don't know if you've read the info on the site, but it's pretty clear that they offer FULL disclosure of what it is." "it's pretty clear they aren't making any attempt to be devious or try to trick people in some way."Nonsense, you don't know anything of the sort. You know what they say, but you don't know how the response aberrations were chosen. I'm saying it's not so cut and dry. They'd be foolish not to take the opportunity to stack the deck as much as possible. It's not only their phones that might benefit, but if you think it's not possible, think again. neo
You guys are not only paranoid, you're obsessed. I've told you under-educated and obsessed types to look into common business practices, patterns of behavior, competitive spying, stealing secrets, corporate lying (i.e. public relations) - all very normal business practices, but your paranoia here has you seeing tinfoil hats and boogeymen instead.When you grow up and stop acting like children and join the real world, maybe then you can graduate to the next level. But, if you're still able to read, you might look up Ed Bernays book on P.R. - now what was that title? Oh yes, propaganda. And you need to read, because you're doing poorly here. In the USA, we call it "business as usual".
