[persisting1]

How do the stacked tweeters work on these? Are the crossed separately?

[Rclark]

Not sure how it works, haven't opened them up. Would be interesting to learn more. Perhaps we can convince Ken to stop in and give us a post mortem on this design?

Still haven't really seen any other speakers with adjustable external controls like this. Not for analogue speakers anyway.

[RDavidson]

How do the stacked tweeters work on these? Are the crossed separately?

I'm only guessing, but I always thought the dual tweeters were primarily for better power handling. They likely allow for a lower crossover point also, since neither tweeter has to work as hard while trying to keep distortion in check.

[Rclark]

I'm only guessing, but I always thought the dual tweeters were primarily for better power handling. They likely allow for a lower crossover point also, since neither tweeter has to work as hard while trying to keep distortion in check.

Whatever solution he used, it works very well. Definitely low distortion. They are incredible, really.

I think tomorrow,  now that I am good and comfortable with how they sound, I think I'll try them with my modded Virtue amp on batteries,  and see what they are like with a lot less power, but something that could be more of an analogue to what would have been a high end amp for the time of these speakers when they were new. And 80 watts instead of 500.

I do think the Ncores would be considered well beyond even the best amps of that era.

[Rclark]

So, these speakers have been in my main system for a year. My Gunned Magnepan MMG's have been collecting acres of dust in the living room (of course I jest, I'm not going to let that beautiful woodwork sit without the occasional pass with a swiffer). I never really use the living room much, and when I do, the smaller amp I have on them does no justice. Maggies need power.

But either way, pretty shocked I've been on box speakers so long since first getting Maggies, getting an amp, modding hell out of amp, modding Maggies, getting Ncores, building diffusers for them, all that.

It's just that in the space I listen to music most, these speakers outshine the Maggies, and allow me to move about more practically.

However I am moving next month and my main musical space will probably shift to a new, larger room. I imagine these delicious speakers will be set aside for my well rested Maggies, as, ultimately they are better speakers, given the room to breathe.

But these, oh these, these have opened my ears to what a truly good box speaker can sound like, and have given me the knowledge that all speaker types can get you where you want to go, but they must be chosen carefully to match the room they will likely reside in.

[Sonance84]

Great story on acquiring the S-1B's Rclark! I'm an M&K convert myself and I'm now on the hunt for more. I have a rare pair of SV-200 towers that I rebuilt the plate amps and will soon rebuild the crossovers of the monitors. You can check out my restoration thread on them over here on another forum: http://audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=626741

To me, they sound better than a lot of other speakers I've had through here over the years. I'll never sell them, that's for sure.

I'm new to AC though and this is my first post, so please bear with me. I'm on the hunt for more information about the vintage M&K lineup and came across the scans of the two different brochures posted by AC member benguin in post #14 and #17. I'd really love to have full resolution copies of those, since the scans in this thread are compressed. Rclark or benguin...would either of you be kind enough to PM or email them to me? I'd really appreciate it.

[Ken Kreisel]

I stumbled across this thread in the AudioCircle tonight and thought I would register and answer any questions. 









Here are photos of a scan of the original Miller & Kreisel Sound Satellite-Volkswoofer brochure from 1978, I am not sure how well the photos will reproduce here as I do not seem to be able to upload the original PDF and the .jpg photos as posted here seem to be low resolution. 

Perhaps the moderator can let me know if there is a way to upload the PDF or post the photos in higher resolution.  I will be happy to email anyone the original PDF scan.

The brochure will hopefully answer some the questions posted regarding the origin of the S-1 satellite speakers and it will probably generate some new questions which I look forward to answering.  As this post goes back a few years I am not sure if anyone is still following it, but,

In the meantime,
GOOD SOUND TO YOU...ALWAYS!!!
KEN

[SteveFord]

I sent you a PM and welcome!
You've got a fan club here.

[brother love]

Welcome Ken!  The brochure for the M & K Satellite/ Volkswoofer is very cool. Love the name Volkswoofer & it was a servo to boot!

When Rclark first posted about these early last year, I did some research & these speakers looked very intriguing. I am sorry that I never came across this system back in the late 70's during the brick & mortar days.

[mresseguie]

Welcome to AC, Ken.

My buddy in Vancouver, B.C. has an M&K system set up in his home theater. He's had it for close to twenty years now and he has zero interest in replacing it with anything else. Impressive!

[Rclark]

Wow! Hello Mr.Kreisel, your speakers are astonishing and I'm very  lucky to have them. Anyone in the Seattle area is welcome to have a listen as well.

Can you explain a little about the switches in the back and the extra inputs, they are a bit of a mystery.

Thanks!

[Ken Kreisel]

Wow! Hello Mr.Kreisel, your speakers are astonishing and I'm very  lucky to have them. Anyone in the Seattle area is welcome to have a listen as well.

Can you explain a little about the switches in the back and the extra inputs, they are a bit of a mystery.

Thanks!

Would you like the short explanation or the long explanation about the switches and extra inputs?  You can email me directly through our support page at http://www.kreiselsound.com/support.php and I can email you some brochures and manuals which will also explain about the switches and inputs.  Some of the brochures with some relevant information have been posted here on this thread but their resolution is so low I do not think one can completely read the text...KEN

[abernardi]

Nice to see you on Audiocircle, Ken!  As I mentioned in my previous post to this thread, I miss my S1b/V1b setup.  Especially these days, I can not seem to get a satisfying sound out of my current system.  My rig has gotten so complex, I think I've fallen into a fairly common pitfall with this hobby where I can't quite track down what's wrong and am starting to mistrust my ears.  Kind of pining for the simpler days of my Adcom amp and the M&K's.  RClark, did you set up your maggies in your new room, or are you sticking with the S1b's?

[jmlinn]

Hello folks,

Just wanted to chime in on these great speakers. I too bought mine with my first post college pay check and have been loving them ever since. Just had the subwoofer ( M&K MX-100) worked on and it is back with full force. I also have been curious about how to use the special input on the S-1B.

[Gchz28]

Hi, new to the forum.  Can anyone send me the pdf of the 2 brochures that has info for the s-2b speakers?  I have 2 pair that are in excellent condition and love the sound.  My email is ckhoranic@yahoo.com