[Wind Chaser]

I had a receiver for a few years, out performed a Rotel all the way around at 1/4th the price. And yes it excelled at low end grunt with its beefy power supply.

Which receiver? HK made some nice twin powered receivers in the 70's.

[Wind Chaser]

Take a look at this Onkyo digital 9555 integrated.  I would jump all over this one.  Its a nice amp.  You won't do any better at its price.  In fact, I may buy it for my daughter as I have been looking for one of these.

http://app.audiogon.com/listings/solid-state-onkyo-a-9555-digital-integrated-amp-2014-02-10-integrateds-34994

That kind of power might be the way to go.

[Wind Chaser]

The only completed ones I see right now are the 2.1 versions
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-TPA3116-2-1-completed-in-case-50W-50W-100W-Class-D-Amplifier-board-/161137677418?pt=US_Amplifier_Parts_Components&hash=item25848dd46a

That looks like amazing value. I'll check out the other thread on this.

[I.Greyhound Fan]

Take a look at the HK 3490 and 3390 with its high current design, 45 peak amps

http://www.harmankardon.com/estore/hk/us/products/HK-3490/HK%203490_HK_US

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/554380-REG/Harman_Kardon_HK_3390_HK_3390_Stereo_Receiver.html

[Wind Chaser]

Pioneer VSX-D912 receiver.  They can be had for $100 or less on eBay.

Do not buy any other model, even very close models, it's just this single receiver that has the magic. And follow the instructions in the thread for the very modest use of shorting plugs and taking all of the settings to zero.

I'm not sure what you mean by " modest use of shorting plugs and taking all of the settings to zero." Is this DIY technical stuff that involves a soldering iron etc?  Will the unit not perform as well in its stock form?

[JohnR]

I'd guess Dan means putting shorting plugs on the unused inputs and turning off all the receiver processing.

Here's another option (Canadian) that's just come up: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2090572321/mies-i100-the-ultimate-amplifier-for-vinyl-lovers

Don't know anything about it... if it sounds as good as claimed ("incredibly clear, natural and powerful sound ") it seems viable even if you don't use the phono input.

[JLM]

I think it was a 3340, but a long time ago so pretty irrelevant.

[Letitroll98]

I'm not sure what you mean by " modest use of shorting plugs and taking all of the settings to zero." Is this DIY technical stuff that involves a soldering iron etc?  Will the unit not perform as well in its stock form?

John is correct.  No soldering, shorting plugs on unused inputs are a common way to reduce noise and home theater receivers have a lot of inputs to quiet.  Shorting plugs are cheap and available on eBay.  Defeating all the processing options just turns the receiver into a two channel integrated amp.  There are a lot of good suggestions here, this is just one of them.

[dburna]

Quote from: Brad on Today at 01:35 am
The only completed ones I see right now are the 2.1 versions
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-TPA3116-2-1-completed-in-case-50W-50W-100W-Class-D-Amplifier-board-/161137677418?pt=US_Amplifier_Parts_Components&hash=item25848dd46a

That looks like amazing value. I'll check out the other thread on this.

Does anyone know if these completed amps come in a version with more than one input?

-dB

[ken]

I'll second the Pioneer VSX-D912 I didn't  short any of the inputs or perform any other modifications and it still sounds excellent, it also has a very good pre section.  considering what these fetch in the used market - around $100.00 or so makes this an absolute steal.  I use mine in the summer when it's too hot for tubes and have no intention of selling it.

[Wind Chaser]

John is correct.  No soldering, shorting plugs on unused inputs are a common way to reduce noise and home theater receivers have a lot of inputs to quiet.  Shorting plugs are cheap and available on eBay.  Defeating all the processing options just turns the receiver into a two channel integrated amp.  There are a lot of good suggestions here, this is just one of them.

That's easy enough, I thought it might involve things out of my ken.

The only reason I am asking for recommendations is because these speakers are so inefficient--not sure how difficult the load is and what other considerations there might be in determining a good match. The Dayens Ampino is a very nice amp, I saw one on AG for $300, but I read elsewhere that it wasn't a good match. So I just looking for ideas to expand my thinking.

[Brad]

I think you'd be surprised how well 10wpc will drive the Pioneers.
They aren't the most efficient, but they are an easy load.

[mg8]

On impulse I ordered a cheap pair of speakers.... Pioneer SP-BS22-LR.

I don't plan on rocking out beyond 90 db, but given they are not very  efficient... what is and isn't recommended? New or used, doesn't matter. I'm not interested in DIY projects.

Funny, Pioneer must have sold a ton of these speakers.  I bought a pair of SP-BS41-LR on a whim as well.  I was actually looking for the SP-BS22 LR but at $69, I had to go with the 41's.

[oldmp3]

Factory rebuilds?  I like HK and it probably would have more grunt in the bottom end on account of the bigger power supply...

Should have mentioned I'm willing to spend up to $400, maybe even a little more if merited.

If you like HK, check out their factory store on eBay: http://stores.ebay.com/Harman-Audio/Home-Theater-Receivers-/_i.html?_fsub=10225972

Three nice AVR refurbs available now well under your budget. I bought one a while ago for a second system in my office and really like it.

[Wind Chaser]

I'll second the Pioneer VSX-D912 I didn't  short any of the inputs or perform any other modifications and it still sounds excellent, it also has a very good pre section.  considering what these fetch in the used market - around $100.00 or so makes this an absolute steal.  I use mine in the summer when it's too hot for tubes and have no intention of selling it.

I'm leaning this way.

[wushuliu]

Quote from: Brad on Today at 01:35 am
The only completed ones I see right now are the 2.1 versions
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-TPA3116-2-1-completed-in-case-50W-50W-100W-Class-D-Amplifier-board-/161137677418?pt=US_Amplifier_Parts_Components&hash=item25848dd46a

Does anyone know if these completed amps come in a version with more than one input?

-dB

Don't think so.

[Wind Chaser]

I think you'd be surprised how well 10wpc will drive the Pioneers.
They aren't the most efficient, but they are an easy load.

Are you referencing the TPA3116 2.1? According to ebay, power output is stated as '50W+50W+100W Class D'.

[wushuliu]

I'm leaning this way.

The 912 is awesome if the speakers are benign enough.

[Wind Chaser]

Funny, Pioneer must have sold a ton of these speakers.  I bought a pair of SP-BS41-LR on a whim as well.  I was actually looking for the SP-BS22 LR but at $69, I had to go with the 41's.

They do not ship outside of the USA.

[Wind Chaser]

The 912 is awesome if the speakers are benign enough.

If I had the space, I would be very interested in exploring the Geddis line.