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If your question indicated an interest in learning what I do, I'd be glad to give you an answer. Most users buy into the notion that their headphone sound is a matter of personal preference, but as a practical matter my personal preference isn't available, and the closest to it costs way too much and is too confining. But I think any reputable reviewer will tell you the same thing - they report it the way they hear it - they don't just refuse to review an item because it doesn't suit their preference.
Hi guys, remember me the OP?? Anyway my second pair came and I really like them.....alot!!!Just thought I'd throw that out there...
I'm keeping the two I have for the time being
I got mine a couple of days ago; serial #23099. The earpads were not identical with the T51P in the photo you linked to and so I pursued it with Peter at Beyerdynamic (see reply #59 above) who was helpful.He said that all coiled cable versions were facelift, since none were made before.Since mention was made of better head band padding on the facelift version, I think this is the easiest and surest way to differentiate: the head bands with the extra padding look different; the black rubbery padding holder goes completely around the head bands, whereas the earlier padding just clipped onto the edges and the metal of the head bands was visible from the outside. This makes it very easy to separate facelift from non-facelift.As to the sound; I have burned mine in for around the Beyer-recommended 30 hours at high-ish levels with the earcups clamped on either side of a the metal case of a convenient piece of test equipment 4.25" wide. This seemed to improve sweetness north of, say, 1 kHz. The sound, while not the most accurate in tonality through the midrange (bettered by my Etymotic ER4S) I find thoroughly enjoyable, nonetheless, and exceedingly useful in revealing flaws in my recordings, such as air conditioning noise, mic preamp hiss and distortion, without detracting from the enjoyment. Bass is fabulous, just as expected - extended and realistic; not bloated. For the first time I can hear the orchestral bass drum correctly in my recording of that 95 piece orchestra in Kiev, and I know what was done, EQ-wise, to that, so it is a reference for me.A surprise was how comfortable they were right from the get go. My ears are large and my head is fairly big, so I was expecting difficulty in fitting but, splaying the headbands out, they fell right into place as though they were made for me. The headbands were so comfortable I had to check to see if they were actually touching my head or not (they were).Two final big bonuses: the ambient sound rejection is superb and the carrying case is great - the airline plug adapter means you could take these instead of a 'phone with active noise cancellation and enjoy superior sound and the same degree of noise rejection, for about the same price, probably. Oh, and one final bonus; they are very easily driven, so work well off ordinary low-powered headphone amps. They play louder than my Sennheiser HD 201s, AKG 601s and Etymotic ER4S, much louder than my Fostex T50RPs at the same volume setting, plus can handle more power, so they have a greater dynamic range, which I think is a critical aspect of their performance and makes for undistorted playback at elevated levels for home use, and further isolation potential for pro use.In short, I really like them a lot, and they are immediately my favorite headphone of those mentioned, not to speak of my AKG K1000s.A great design. Thanks, Beyerdynamic!
I got mine a couple of days ago; serial #23099. The earpads were not identical with the T51P in the photo you linked to and so I pursued it with Peter at Beyerdynamic (see reply #59 above) who was helpful.He said that all coiled cable versions were facelift, since none were made before.Since mention was made of better head band padding on the facelift version, I think this is the easiest and surest way to differentiate: the head bands with the extra padding look different; the black rubbery padding holder goes completely around the head bands, whereas the earlier padding just clipped onto the edges and the metal of the head bands was visible from the outside. This makes it very easy to separate facelift from non-facelift.
Windchaser; those are facelift. Look at the headband padding, then look at this. This is pre-facelift:As to sound quality, apparently there was nothing done to anything but the headband, cable and earpad, but the softer earpad makes for a better seal and thus better bass.
You guys are killing me!! Let me phrase my question another way....Where did you buy the new facelift version?RegardsRandy
thanks ajzepp & Russell.I actually did email Peter but had not heard back. I did check on Amazon but will check again paying close attention to the headbands.RegardsRandy