Oppo BDP as a network player?

BobC · « **on:** 15 Oct 2013, 02:29 pm »

Hi everyone.

Right now I have a Logitech Touch (connected to home PC via wifi) feeding a Cambridge Audio DACMagic as my source.

I am intrigued with the possibilities offered by either the Oppo BDP103 or BDP105 as a network player with double duty as a BDP.

Has anyone tried these as a NWP? What are your thought of this function relative to my current setup?

In theory I would sell the Touch and DACMagic and my Oppo BDP83 to fund a BDP 103...or save a little more to spring for the 105....but only if I should expect superior performance versus today (which is pretty darn good).

Source > Odyssey Candela Pre > Odyssey Stratos Monos > Martin Logan Ascent i's.

Any advice is appreciated.

Thanks, Bob

howburger · « **Reply #1 on:** 15 Oct 2013, 11:35 pm »

Hello:

Until recently, I used a laptop, using Foobar with flac files. I sent this via USB to an EMU 404 USB DAC. It sounded, and still sounds fantastic. I recently got an Oppo BDP-103 and have set it up to stream music files through my wireless network from my laptop/Foobar. Let me first say that it also sounds equally as fantastic as the laptop/EMU Dac combo, however, I think it sounds a little sharper and a little more strident. That's a good thing in my book. To access Foobar from the player, you need to add
http://www.foobar2000.org/components/view/foo_upnp to the components folder of your Foobar player, then set it to stream. Normally, with the Oppo player, you have to have a monitor to see the function of the player and to navigate and find your files to play them. Oppo is working on a media app. for the Iphone, Ipod and currently have a firmware update for the Ipad to be able to use them as an interface in order to see what you are doing and control everything without a monitor. I am using an app. for my Android phone called Bubble UPnP https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bubblesoft.android.bubbleupnp&hl=en that sees my Oppo player and also sees my laptop/Foobar/Files. For now it is a great way to navigate everything. This is now my preferred way of listening to music, except when I am listening to vinyl.

Good luck to you,

Harold

P.S.
I reread your post and noticed that you currently have an Oppo BDP-83. There are firmware updates that will include a function that will allow you to access a DLNA server. You will be able to do exactly what I am doing with mine. http://www.oppodigital.com/KnowledgeBase.aspx?KBID=4&ProdID=BDP-95

mrhyfy · « **Reply #2 on:** 15 Oct 2013, 11:42 pm »

You could also sell your preamp unless you have an analogue source to deal with

Austin08 · « **Reply #3 on:** 15 Oct 2013, 11:43 pm »

I connect my hard drive directly to Oppo 105 and use Oppo media app to control. Other than that I could used my desk top and jriver to pushed files to Oppo 105 via dlna.

tnewell · « **Reply #4 on:** 16 Oct 2013, 12:19 am »

I recently set up a PC based server using the Oppo 105 as a DAC. Burning all my CDs in FLAC to a 4 TB hard drive. Installed JRiver 19 on a Dell Laptop to push the digital via USB to the Oppo.

I am using JRemote on my IPad to manage the music files.

Very cool.

Tom

BobC · « **Reply #5 on:** 16 Oct 2013, 03:19 am »

I want to keep the pre for HT bypass.

The Oppo cant do this, right?

Austin08 · « **Reply #6 on:** 16 Oct 2013, 05:20 am »

Quote from: BobC on 16 Oct 2013, 03:19 am

I want to keep the pre for HT bypass.

The Oppo cant do this, right?

If you don't have analog equipment and would careless for room correction then you can use your Oppo as a 2 channel preamp and surround proccesor. A lot of guy do it but Imo, I find that my BAT preamp is doing a better job in 2 channel music than the Oppo.

Phil A · « **Reply #7 on:** 16 Oct 2013, 01:25 pm »

I'd think the Candela (I have one) would be a whole lot better of a 2-channel preamp vs. the Oppo

BobC · « **Reply #8 on:** 16 Oct 2013, 02:56 pm »

Yeah, I like my Candela. I use the Candela HT bypass to integrate a Marantz AV Receiver for movies and TV. Use the Marantz to drive the Center and Surrounds, while the Mains are driven by the monos.

I don't like the idea of turning on my projector to listen to music...but if Oppo has a control app for iPhone or a tablet, then that could be a nice solution.

Just would like to know the advantages that the 105 may offer over Touch / DACMagic. A better DAC, yeah...but...

Phil A · « **Reply #9 on:** 16 Oct 2013, 03:30 pm »

I don't have one of the newer Oppos yet (103 or 105), but have seen them. I use a small LCD TV connected by composite with my BDP-83 (and I realize the new ones don't have composite but have the second HDMI) if I need to look at menu items. I have them same issue in the basement if I stick a thumb drive in the BDP-93 and it makes the menu come up and I turn on the projector. I'm in process of a move so I have not looked at all the options yet and may be getting a couple of 103s for spare systems where I don't have a projector. If I use a hard drive to play files (e.g. DSD), I'll also need to turn on the TV.

Austin08 · « **Reply #10 on:** 16 Oct 2013, 03:51 pm »

Quote from: BobC on 16 Oct 2013, 02:56 pm

Just would like to know the advantages that the 105 may offer over Touch / DACMagic. A better DAC, yeah...but...

Oppo can stream dsd files and act as dsd dac.
Oppo can stream multi channel audio files.
Oppo can stream video content in many formats.
Oppo's video proc is excellent.
....etc

Russtafarian · « **Reply #11 on:** 16 Oct 2013, 04:14 pm »

I own and use both. A lot depends on how you use the Oppo. The Oppo does a lot of things well, but media navigation is not one of its strengths. For two channel music listening, I'd stick to the SBT.

As a stand-alone network player using attached or network files, the Oppo is a step back and a downright PITA compared to the SBT. Forget using metadata criteria like artist, album, genre, etc. to find music. It's all based on plowing through folder/file trees. Want to listen to Sonny Rollins or Talking Heads? Be prepared to individually scroll past every artist/album folder in your library until you get to the bottom of the alphabet.

Oppo's media navigation app may solve these issues but I don't have an Ipad to try it. An Iphone version would be nice.

If you use the Oppo as a player and navigate with a PC program like Jriver or Foobar, it will work as well as the SBT, but that requires adding a PC to the mix. I would love for DLNA to do what it's supposed to. But so far my experience with it has lead only to frustration, confusion and the desire to scream and smash things. Hopefully, your experience will be better than mine if you choose to walk down that path.

Russ

Phil A · « **Reply #12 on:** 16 Oct 2013, 04:26 pm »

I sort of figured that. I kept my SBT/upgraded power supply and I'll use it eventually in a spare system and try the Foobar plug-in with a DSD DAC (I have a Teac on back order at J&R for a couple of months). With my upcoming move, I'm in process of figuring out what I have now, what I will get and where I will put what I have now in one of four secondary systems. I will likely have at least one system where I use the DSD capability of one of the newer Oppos and it will have a regular 55 inch LED in there so there is not a projector issue. For the main system, I have a DSD DAC and a music server and JRiver via the iPad mini makes the task easy. I don't need super high end in the master bedroom system and I'm thinking the BDP-93 is more than good enough to play PCM files and it has a composite out.

BobC · « **Reply #13 on:** 16 Oct 2013, 05:03 pm »

Thanks, that's what I was looking for....an idea on the user interface and performance.

I don't have any DSD files, that I know of....so I think the SBT stays for a while.

Austin08 · « **Reply #14 on:** 16 Oct 2013, 05:14 pm »

One can use my river app which works with android, iphone, ipad to control jriver media. It even allow you to choose zone too. The new oppo media app for ipad is working but they are still work on creating playlist. I use that to browse my files in my 3T direct attached hdd via usb and it is not hard to use at all. Either way no tv monitor involve here.

mr_bill · « **Reply #15 on:** 16 Oct 2013, 06:46 pm »

Quote from: Austin08 on 16 Oct 2013, 05:14 pm

One can use my river app which works with android, iphone, ipad to control jriver media. It even allow you to choose zone too. The new oppo media app for ipad is working but they are still work on creating playlist. I use that to browse my files in my 3T direct attached hdd via usb and it is not hard to use at all. Either way no tv monitor involve here.

How do you have your computer connected to the Oppo to use DNLA with JRiver - is it by USB or by ethernet?
Encouraging to know you can do this all remotely.
With your Iphone (or whatever device) can you also browse files directly on an attached hard drive directly to the Oppo?

JRace · « **Reply #16 on:** 16 Oct 2013, 07:39 pm »

Quote from: mr_bill on 16 Oct 2013, 06:46 pm

How do you have your computer connected to the Oppo to use DNLA with JRiver - is it by USB or by ethernet?
Encouraging to know you can do this all remotely.
With your Iphone (or whatever device) can you also browse files directly on an attached hard drive directly to the Oppo?

If the PC is connected by USB then you ar not using DNLA, rather the Oppo becomes mereley a USB DAC. For that you can use something like LogMeIn (app) to remotely control your computer so no need to have keyboard monitor or mouse.

the media control HD iPad app will allow you to play from discs, attached storage, or network storage.
By far the direct attached storage is the most polished of the latter 2, as the network access still needs some work.
I can browse my network (most of the time) and choose a song to play. Sometimes it wont make it to the end of the song, requiring a restart of the Oppo.
Othertimes it will only playback songs from within the first directory/folder I opened. Othertimes it works without issue.
All times the network access is out of order (based on file creation date not file name) so it will rarely go from track 1 to track 2..

Attached storage exhibits no issues for me. Oppo indicates this will be addressed with the newest mediacontrol HD update.

Using Kinsky App (linn) I can push songs from Foobar on my PC to the Oppo as well.

I do have a 1000+ album collection on my network (NAS = Freenas 9.1.1 with ZFS filesytem)
Your milage may vary.

mr_bill · « **Reply #17 on:** 16 Oct 2013, 08:50 pm »

Will the Oppo 105 read a smaller USB portable hard disc drive full of FLAC files and can you access the files with the mobile app? I see that there is an app for IPhone 5.

Can you access Pandora and Rhapsody vis the mobile app on IPhone 5?

Austin08 · « **Reply #18 on:** 16 Oct 2013, 09:20 pm »

Quote from: mr_bill on 16 Oct 2013, 06:46 pm

How do you have your computer connected to the Oppo to use DNLA with JRiver - is it by USB or by ethernet?
Encouraging to know you can do this all remotely.
With your Iphone (or whatever device) can you also browse files directly on an attached hard drive directly to the Oppo?

I connected my hdd to my pc via usb and used "MY RIVER" App (third party app not from jriver) on mobile devices to control jriver media. I could browse, create play list and pushed them to Oppo via dlna. My computer and jriver media is always on and could be awake with a couple steps to my hone office and a push of button.

Lately. I connected my hhd to oppo via usb to test out the oppo media control app. I am unable to create playlist but Oppo is working on it. Otherwise, i did not really see any real problem at all. Maybe my and your mileage vary.

JRace · « **Reply #19 on:** 19 Oct 2013, 03:38 pm »

Quote from: mr_bill on 16 Oct 2013, 08:50 pm

Will the Oppo 105 read a smaller USB portable hard disc drive full of FLAC files and can you access the files with the mobile app? I see that there is an app for IPhone 5.

Can you access Pandora and Rhapsody vis the mobile app on IPhone 5?

Not sure about accessing pandora or rhapsodpy via the app ( the app also doubles as a remote control so if your tv is on you can navigate that way)...but ues to the hard drve & flac.