Budget Tube Preamp Recommendation under $750

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jarcher

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Re: Budget Tube Preamp Recommendation under $750
« Reply #20 on: 25 Jul 2013, 03:17 am »
Let us know how you like it.

Gorgeous sound.  It just sounds right (CJ motto) indeed.  I expected some "tube flavor" but I didn't expect it to also resolve detail and have such clarity as well. On the whole it pushes both the "hi fi" buttons while still providing a natural, enjoyable and non-fatiguing sound.  I guess all those fancy polypropylene caps, minimalist circuit design, etc do make a substantial difference.  Left brain keeps telling me : "yeah but it's not as neutral / linear / clean as it should be" while right brain is telling me : "chill out dude, I'm enjoying myself". 

They certainly are minimal on the aesthetics : when I took it out of the box I thought "I paid how much for this?".  But I guess they put the $ where it counts, and the sound quality makes up for it.  Funny how much looking at it reminds me of AVA preamps / gear.  Same design philosophy I guess. If I were starting all over again I'd probably go AVA new (or even better used!) for preamp / amp. One small critique would be that I don't think it has sufficient ventilation - just a thin line or two of long holes at the top and bottom back edges.  It runs hot : and I've heard these & similar can be "hard" on tubes.

Only nagging thought is : "if this preamp - which was an entry level CJ component in it's day - sounds so good - I wonder how much better a newer model runs......".  What could actually have been done for successive products that could materially improve the sound - and how much more is that improvement worth? The bane of being an audiophile.  Can't just enjoy the moment. 

I do know that the interconnects from the external DAC that used to go the Marantz AV7005 will now firmly change hands to his PV10A - and the PV10A will be given it's own rack space of honor.  It's funny because I've kept trying to convince myself that something like a relatively high-end processor like my AV7005 could be a good music preamp as well (in Pure Direct mode at least), then I hook up this humble looking CJ PV10A that's some 20 years old, and it tops it in just about every respect imaginable (w/ the Marantz the bass is a bit tighter).  Don't know what lead to that delusion : my "reference" music system has for some time been all tube w/ no mass market av components and I spent more than a decade avoiding mass market receivers, etc for music.

Guess the ol saw about the futility of attempting the best of both HT + 2 channel in one systems still holds true to some degree, and better to have two separate systems, unless you're prepared to pay big $'s for the likes of Anthem / Classe / Bryston etc, and even then be at the mercy that these don't have the latest software & plummeting resale values. If I had the big bucks would be fun to have an all CJ home theater rig w/ hybrid pre & power amplification.

Anyway - I digress.  Time to turn the left brain off & enjoy the music!

Captainhemo

Re: Budget Tube Preamp Recommendation under $750
« Reply #21 on: 25 Jul 2013, 06:53 am »
Congrats ,  looks like you  found what  you  were looking for  and maybe  a bit more in the  PV10A :thumb:
 I was  looking at some pictures of  it  and actually  quite like the  appearence, love the clean  simple look.
Hope you  enjoy  it 

-jay

JCarney

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Re: Budget Tube Preamp Recommendation under $750
« Reply #22 on: 25 Jul 2013, 11:08 am »
Hi jarcher,
You asked what Brimar tubes are like. They are my favorite brand of tubes. The Brimars IMO don't have as much "tube" sound as say, a Mullard. The Brimars are very resolving, add some warmth, but mostly just reproduce music right. Gets my toes tapping, and pulls me in. I have used 12AU7's, 12AX7's, and 12AT7's, and all of them excelled beyond what I might have expected. They do bass very well, better than most tubes in my experience, but I've not heard them all.

Hope this is helpful,
JCarney