I heard this pre a long time ago...probably close to 20 years ago now. Presence Audio changed their name to First Sound (I thought Presence was a nicer name...). I remember it being very neutral sounding but lots of nice pres have come around since then. I seem to remember it selling for around $5k so the Agon asking price is pretty good. Sorry I can't remember more. I wasn't really looking seriously at this price range at the time. I was a starving student then.