Blending a Sub & Floorstanders w/built-in bass — Are these good measurements?

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jsawyer09

Hello. I've posted this over at AVS as well, but wanted to get as many viewpoints as possible, giving it exposure where I can in the event there's not many responses.

So, here hoes: I wanted to get people's opinions on whether or not the following measurements are good/sufficient for a 2-channel only system; or can I expect to gain some improvements with a little more effort, time, patience and REW/possible DSP? And if so, how might I go about achieving this objective where the nulls and rises are concerned? It appears that with the Definitive Technology Mythos STs, people have reported, as have reviewers, a 'natural' rise in the area where I've stated below. So this may explain what I'm experiencing there (I guess I don't know for certain). Also, is the drop-off in the 25Hz - 20Hz region anything out of the ordinary; same question for the drop-off in the 16kHz - 20kHz range? I'm trying to get a grasp on what the accepted wisdom is regarding great, flat measurements in comparison to problematical regions. Here are the measurements I've taken:

64dB  70dB  73dB    74dB  76dB  72dB  72dB   66dB   65dB    72dB    72dB


20Hz  25Hz  31.5Hz  40Hz  50Hz  63Hz  80Hz  100Hz  125Hz  160Hz  200Hz


75dB    77dB    76dB    76dB    76dB  72dB   72dB  71dB    71dB


250Hz  315Hz  400Hz  500Hz  630Hz   1K    1.25K   1.6K     2K

73dB   77dB  80dB  84dB  85dB  80dB  74dB   70dB   67dB  60dB

2.5K   3.15K   4K      5K    6.3K    8K     10K    12.5K   16K   20K



I've cut and pasted the following post I placed yesterday for a little context on how I came about the measurements. It is here:


It all began with a friend of mine's purchase: a pair of Def Tech Mythos STs. I somewhat chronicled it in the speakers forum a few weeks back, trying to figure out how to cross-over his SVS SB12-NSD sub with his Mythoses, while running an Antimode 8033. I think since then, we've got it sitting pretty good; and running REW in his space shows that we've probably done about all we can do. It does sound very nice, though.

I've since picked-up a pair of the Mythos STs as well for a 2-channel-only system. Wonderful speaker, BTW (but I'll maybe talk about that on the Mythos forum)! I also have the same SVS sub as my friend, running the Antimode 8033 as well.

I have done measurements with the right speaker's gain dial at about 9:30, and the left speaker at about 10:30 (the R is about 4.5 ft. from a side wall; the L about 7 ft. from the other side wall, which then opens-up, or fires into/toward an archway where a dining/kitchen area with equal space as my listening room resides. So, there's quite a bit of cubic feet that needs to be pressurized. Now, the SVS sub is on the back wall beside my couch/listening position at nearfield. At the moment, I've set the phase at around 90-degrees (I tried 0 and 180 as well, but honestly could not tell much of a difference here), the gain around 1:00, and the crossover at 75Hz. After fiddling with measurements in order to calibrate the speakers/sub (once landing on the above) so they'd both be 75dB, I ran test tones using an SPL meter, C-weighted and set for slow for the bass, mids and highs from Stereophile's Test CD2.

Thus far, in this configuration, from 20Hz to 20kHz, things are pretty good overall (though I've no doubt they could be better...just not certain how to tackle it yet). Across the spectrum, it is admirably flat (within +/- 2dB) for the exception of the following: The bass starts to roll off at 25Hz, then drops like a brick before registering at 20Hz (down about -9dB). I'd like to get a better response from my bass, seeing that I essentially have '3 subs', but am uncertain how to tackle this, either. I have a nasty -10db dip for some reason between 100Hz - 125Hz; a +9dB rise between 4k - 6k; and then the response rolls off from 16k - 20k. All of this is with the Antimode 8033 in the chain.

BTW, my form of amplification isn't via an AVR; it is a Rega Elicit 2-channel Integrated without bass management capabilities.

Anything offered is greatly appreciated. Like I say, it sounds wonderful so far, but like everyone, I'm curious if it can be improved. Thanks!

vinyl_guy

jsawyer09,

I think you posted this in the wrong circle as this appears to have nothing to do with vinyl records and vinyl playback. I believe this belongs in the Bass Place circle, http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?board=198.0

Cheers,

Laura

jsawyer09

Oops...I'm soooooooo sorry. Thank you for pointing that out!

jsawyer09

Moderator...is there any way to delete this post. I've placed it where it should be.  :duh: