Bryston asynchronous USB Converter coming soon

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Re: Bryston asynchronous USB Converter coming soon
« Reply #20 on: 13 Jul 2013, 08:00 pm »
I'm just happy to see Bryston offering a reduced form factor component .

Can you tell us why that's important?

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Re: Bryston asynchronous USB Converter coming soon
« Reply #21 on: 14 Jul 2013, 02:23 am »
Can you tell us why that's important?

I didn't want to be Capt. Obvious, but for some people/applications it is desirous to have a system that requires less space but doesn't give up any functionality or performance.

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Re: Bryston asynchronous USB Converter coming soon
« Reply #22 on: 14 Jul 2013, 03:31 am »
Midsize components that are like 10" to 14" wide don't make much sense to me other than saving a few dollars for the manufacturer, as they still take up a component space.  But half-width components that are 8" to 8-1/2" wide make more sense as you can put two side-by-side in a standard 17" wide component space.

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« Reply #23 on: 14 Jul 2013, 03:38 am »
I didn't want to be Capt. Obvious, but for some people/applications it is desirous to have a system that requires less space but doesn't give up any functionality or performance.

I think what Rimbaud means is that someone that does not require all the features and versatility of something like the BDP2 can add a state of the art USB async component to his or her laptop or BDP1 or SP3 without the expense of purchasing a product with more features than he needs at a much higher cost.

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Re: Bryston asynchronous USB Converter coming soon
« Reply #24 on: 1 Aug 2013, 01:42 am »
Great news that (uncle) BUC is on it's way. Can we order yet in Toronto?

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« Reply #25 on: 1 Aug 2013, 12:26 pm »
Great news that (uncle) BUC is on it's way. Can we order yet in Toronto?

Hi Gordon

Just making some last minute changes and be about another month.  We are backordered heavily at this point.

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« Reply #26 on: 2 Aug 2013, 03:28 pm »
 And how about that half width mono block 4b ?  :wink:

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Re: Bryston asynchronous USB Converter coming soon
« Reply #28 on: 14 Aug 2013, 08:45 pm »
Rather than move to a Bryston BDP, I've always been one to use a laptop with a fairly decent external soundcard fed from USB and then use foobar running the Windows Audio Session API exclusive mode (WASAPI) dll component that sends exact bit stream directly to the soundcard.

The resultant sound is dependant on the quality of the external soundcard and its digital output. The computer runs its clock, and the power is derived from the computers supply, so it's very dependant on the computer itself, and they're usually not that good.

The BUC appears to take care of these problems, and so if you're someone who likes to use their own computer to drive digital music rather than handing it all over to a BDP, I think the BUC will be the answer to great sound.

I look forward to trying out a BUC.

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Re: Bryston asynchronous USB Converter coming soon
« Reply #29 on: 15 Aug 2013, 02:41 am »
So if I had say an older dCS dac with no usb input, I could use this device to play 192KHz files from my laptop via async usb and then feed my dac via the spdif output? It converts usb to spdif? But I thought you need a separate cable to link the word clocks of source and dac to get rid of the jitter on spdif? What exactly does this product do? I understand the build quality makes a difference, but it seems to me it is async usb in, normal spdif out, right? I have a USB dac but my dad has an older dCS stack and has no way to get 192 files into it. He uses a Squeezebox Touch.

I wish there was a product that had async usb in and spdif and wordclock. I'm sure this thing kills a Squeezebox anyway.

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Re: Bryston asynchronous USB Converter coming soon
« Reply #30 on: 15 Aug 2013, 01:21 pm »
Can this be used with the BDP-2 using one of the USB outputs to feed the BUC to gain additional outputs to feed other DACS, meaning if you are using both AES/EBU and BNC from your BDP-2 and still need another say AES/EBU to feed another DAC can you feed the BUC from a USB output from your BDP-2 to BUC and not lose any SQ from I guess would be a "double processing" of the signal.

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« Reply #31 on: 15 Aug 2013, 02:51 pm »
The best way to understand the advantage of using the Bryston BUC-1 USB interface is if you want to use your computer (laptop. Desktop etc.) as the File Management system 'only' for your digital music collection.

The USB input on the BUC1 is ASYNC so that means the soundcard in your computer is not used – the raw digital bit-stream is outputted on the computers USB  to the BUC-1 USB input and the clocking and quality of your audio signal up to 192/32bit is controlled by the BUC -1 not your crap computer.  The computer is just managing your files, playlists etc.

There are lots of cheap USB converters that use the USB connection and computer as the power supply but the BUC-1 has a substantial built in power supply as you can see in the diagram.

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« Reply #32 on: 15 Aug 2013, 04:12 pm »
James,

might want to check your leaflet, that mentions 192/24bit twice?
cheers,
Marius


and the clocking and quality of your audio signal up to 192/32bit is controlled by the BUC -1 not your crap computer.  The computer is just managing your files, playlists etc.


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Re: Bryston asynchronous USB Converter coming soon
« Reply #33 on: 15 Aug 2013, 04:18 pm »
James,

might want to check your leaflet, that mentions 192/24bit twice?
cheers,
Marius

Hi Marius,

Yes thanks - the DAC chip is capable of 32 but we run them currently at 24.

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Re: Bryston asynchronous USB Converter coming soon
« Reply #34 on: 15 Aug 2013, 05:41 pm »
The best way to understand the advantage of using the Bryston BUC-1 USB interface is if you want to use your computer (laptop. Desktop etc.) as the File Management system only for your difital music collection.

The USB input on the BUC1 is ASYNC so that means the soundcard in your computer is not used – the raw digital bit-stream is outputted on the computers USB  to the BUC-1 USB input and the clocking and quality of your audio signal up to 192/32bit is controlled by the BUC -1 not your crap computer.  The computer is just managing your files, playlists etc.

There are lots of cheap USB converters that use the USB connection and computer as the power supply but the BUC-1 has a substantial built in power supply as you can see in the diagram.

James


I understand what the real purpose for the BUC is with your laptop/desktop etc. I wanted to know if it can be used with the BDP-2 as explained even thought this is not it's main/intended use. And will you lose SQ if used in this manner. I need more outputs from my BDP-2 and short of buying a second was wondering how the BUC would be if it can be used in the senario

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« Reply #35 on: 15 Aug 2013, 05:51 pm »
I understand what the real purpose for the BUC is with your laptop/desktop etc. I wanted to know if it can be used with the BDP-2 as explained even thought this is not it's main/intended use. And will you lose SQ if used in this manner. I need more outputs from my BDP-2 and short of buying a second was wondering how the BUC would be if it can be used in the senario

You can use the Quote button instead of Reply when quoting someone, making it less confusing (as well as date/time stamping it which can be helpful if it's a number of posts back).

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Re: Bryston asynchronous USB Converter coming soon
« Reply #36 on: 15 Aug 2013, 06:01 pm »
Hi folks,
  As far as sound quality goes,  what advantage would a Bryston BDP / Bryston BDA have over a computer/Bryston BUC-1/Bryston BDA? 
   
  Tom

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« Reply #37 on: 15 Aug 2013, 07:42 pm »
The best way to understand the advantage of using the Bryston BUC-1 USB interface is if you want to use your computer (laptop. Desktop etc.) as the File Management system 'only' for your digital music collection.

The USB input on the BUC1 is ASYNC so that means the soundcard in your computer is not used – the raw digital bit-stream is outputted on the computers USB  to the BUC-1 USB input and the clocking and quality of your audio signal up to 192/32bit is controlled by the BUC -1 not your crap computer.  The computer is just managing your files, playlists etc.

There are lots of cheap USB converters that use the USB connection and computer as the power supply but the BUC-1 has a substantial built in power supply as you can see in the diagram.

James

I'm certainly looking forward to trying out a BUC. I think it's the alternative answer to what the BDP has accomplished. The BDP is basically a computer on a network, a storage disk, an operating system with dedicated software, a great power supply, and a great soundcard to transmit digital information over S/PDIF.

Well, I already have a laptop computer on a network where I store and manage my digital files, along with my choice of playback software. The weak link is that the power supply is quite poor and adding an external USB soundcard uses the computers power supply. That's presently where my system lets me down. I've tried numerous external soundcards and I'm still not happy. Enter the BUC.

I feel for the price of a BUC, I will be able to match the sound performance of a BDP, but I'll be in control of the computer, the network, the playback software, the file storage, and I can use the computer to do all my ripping and file manipulation. Heck, I can even surf the net and send e-mails. I don't think the BDP can send e-mail.

I'll be interested when someone does a comparison between a BDP and a laptop/BUC combo.

brucek

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Re: Bryston asynchronous USB Converter coming soon
« Reply #38 on: 21 Aug 2013, 05:35 am »
Hi James,

I'm a retailer in NZ, we are one of the few retailers of Bryston in NZ.

I'm a very happy owner of the BDA-1 and was just wondering when these will be available for us :) or do I contact Syntec?

Thanks heaps,

William

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Re: Bryston asynchronous USB Converter coming soon
« Reply #39 on: 21 Aug 2013, 10:26 am »
Hi James,

I'm a retailer in NZ, we are one of the few retailers of Bryston in NZ.

I'm a very happy owner of the BDA-1 and was just wondering when these will be available for us :) or do I contact Syntec?

Thanks heaps,

William

Hi William

Nice to hear from you. :thumb:  Yes I would contact Syntec and see if they have any on order - if not it would be about 2 months as we are backordered.

james