How to quiet the plumbing?

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Re: How to quiet the plumbing?
« Reply #20 on: 5 Feb 2013, 06:09 pm »
Thanks, but its outside of my budget. I may just cut a hole and try to reach in and hand pack a bunch if batt.

Don't jam it in tight. That just connects hard surface. Try to keep it loose - hence my suggestion for blown in.

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Re: How to quiet the plumbing?
« Reply #21 on: 5 Feb 2013, 06:58 pm »
The brain is not switched off while asleep. The baby will learn that the flushing sound is safe and will ignore it after a couple days.
But it will wake up to any small noise if it's hungry. Three words: Vanilla Ice Cream (for mom.)  You're welcome. ;)

Good ideas for pipe quieting! Especially Dynamat on the pipes - genius!  :thumb:  My daughter's shower shares wall with my TV room, so loud I can't hear the TV. Turning it up drives away my wife.

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Re: How to quiet the plumbing?
« Reply #22 on: 6 Feb 2013, 12:15 am »
If it is the water supply pipe making the noise you might be able to solve the problem in the way you suggest as long as the offending pope run is not too long.  If the supply is coming up from the floor the run will be quite short to the toilet and just a bit longer to the sink.  If the offending pipe runs in between the sink and toilet then you have a longer run to deal with.  Try to determine how the pipes travel.  Insulation needs to be denser for sound absorption than for heat/cold...

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Re: How to quiet the plumbing?
« Reply #23 on: 6 Feb 2013, 12:23 am »
A contractor I  sometimes refer for insulation does sound insulation with blown in cellulose.  To get it to the noise reduction level he guarantees he blows it in quite densely ( I have actually removed the drywall from a ceiling after he blew it in and the stuff never moved ).  He makes the distinction that his product does little for impact noises ( footfalls, chairs being dragged on the floor) but is quite effective for airborne noise.

Don't jam it in tight. That just connects hard surface. Try to keep it loose - hence my suggestion for blown in.

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Re: How to quiet the plumbing?
« Reply #24 on: 12 Feb 2013, 04:04 pm »
So we ran the water while holding an SPL meter in the nursery while a noise machine was playing. Had about 42dB without water. When run the shower I saw maybe a 1dB increase, ok. When ran the sink slowly we saw about a 4 dB gain, acceptable. When open the sink all the way, there was a sudden Jump by  about 7 or 8 dB, too loud so need to restrain myself when the baby is sleeping. The toilet gave about a 10dB jump. Too loud, so I closed the supply valve to a trickle. Now you can barely hear it, but the tank takes a while to fill. So, bottom line is that I don't think I'm going to open up the wall and try to stuff insulation.

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Re: How to quiet the plumbing?
« Reply #25 on: 12 Feb 2013, 07:22 pm »
Get her earplugs.  :wink:

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Re: How to quiet the plumbing?
« Reply #26 on: 13 Feb 2013, 02:25 pm »
I really think you're over thinking this.  A baby is used to incredibly loud heartbeats and the sound of rushing blood.  One of our books recommended we use LOUD "shooshing" sounds to calm our kids.  With both of them, this worked great. 

I completely tore apart the closet that's right next to my daughter's room.  Took out one wall of drywall.  Drilled many holes through the top and bottom plates.  Ran wires through the holes.  Crawled on the attic directly above her room.  Reinstalled drywall using an electric drill.  Installed a closet organizer.  Made many cuts with my circular saw and chop saw in the garage, which is directly below her room.  And not once did she wake up. For various reasons, this occurred for both daughters.  I never had a problem. 

If you want to do something and can't afford the time to tear apart the wall, get a white noise maker and run it while the baby is asleep.  This will mask the sounds.  (The problem with this is that you'll have to run this at night until their in college.)  Both of our kids enjoyed a music box that they could turn on and off and had multiple pieces of music (and also "outside" sounds). 

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Re: How to quiet the plumbing?
« Reply #27 on: 13 Feb 2013, 02:33 pm »
Oops. should say "they are in college", not "their in college"  This cold is killing me.

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Re: How to quiet the plumbing?
« Reply #28 on: 14 Feb 2013, 08:27 pm »
If you're going to run background noise, might as well make it classical music. Said to improve the brain development. Come to think of it, this might actually be an upgrade opportunity.  Baby gets the old, you get the new.  :D

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Re: How to quiet the plumbing?
« Reply #29 on: 15 Feb 2013, 03:30 am »
I just pee in the yard ... pipes stay dead quiet

In Bob's yard?    :nono: :lol:

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Re: How to quiet the plumbing?
« Reply #30 on: 15 Feb 2013, 07:42 am »
I always thought the main problem in noisy plumbing was the rigid attachment of the pipes, whether plastic or copper, to the wooden framework of the house. The paneling, whether wall, floor or ceiling, would then served as a diaphragm to radiate the sound of water rushing past restrictions (like joints and valves) into the room. The solution, if that was the problem, would be some sort of foam lined pipe hanger or equivalent. Am i right?

What really got me thinking about all this was an old house we lived in with hot water heating and big old 2" cast iron pipes feeding the old fashioned cast iron radiators. When it first heated in the fall after summer the clanking was startling, but it was these pipes forcing their way through their hangers as they expanded, and this was amplified by the floor.

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Re: How to quiet the plumbing?
« Reply #31 on: 15 Feb 2013, 11:46 am »
This whole topic is no different than noise in your system.  Do you rigidly attach everything and shift the offending frequency to something less annoying or do you isolate it and try and keep it from exciting other pieces of the system?  Two camps.

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Re: How to quiet the plumbing?
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Re: How to quiet the plumbing?
« Reply #33 on: 15 Feb 2013, 04:21 pm »
  Not an easy task. The pipes need to be exposed. Wrapped in vinyl or equal. Then install soundboard on studs then sheetrock. If unwilling to expose pipes next best thing is blow in insulation however not as affective.
   Maybe you can use homasote boards framed out from the the existing walls. Fill void between existing wall and new framing with batten soundproofing. Leave a space at top and bottom of new homasote panel and use acoustic caulking to seal.  Should do the trick.


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Re: How to quiet the plumbing?
« Reply #34 on: 15 Feb 2013, 06:12 pm »
In Bob's yard?    :nono: :lol:

Bob's yard has as many weeds that need killin as mine does ...