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Has the Black Treasure tube gone the way of the dodo?

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Ericus Rex

Has the Black Treasure tube gone the way of the dodo?
« on: 10 Nov 2012, 06:16 pm »
It seems the sources of this tube are drying up.  Ebay direct from China and just a couple tube dealers in  the US.  Anyone know what gives?
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roscoeiii

Re: Has the Black Treasure tube gone the way of the dodo?
« Reply #1 on: 10 Nov 2012, 06:52 pm »
Think it has been superceded by the Psvane tubes. IIRC, there are a couple varieties of Psvane at this point. One with the warmer Treasure sound, another that has a bit less warm sound. Think Grant Fidelity's website is where I saw this. But not totally sure and don't have the time to check at the moment.
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Re: Has the Black Treasure tube gone the way of the dodo?
« Reply #2 on: 10 Nov 2012, 07:17 pm »
Too much $$$?

They make tubes that'll work in most of my gear, but I can buy nice NOS tubes for less. Also, the CV181 is supposed to be a 6SN7 but has a lower max plate voltage, requires 50% more heater current and has a mu of 32 vs 20 for a 6SN7 so they aren't necessarily a drop-in replacement, my preamp at 325V B+ might be too hot for the CV181...

As roscoe said, Psvane is distributing a new updated Treasure tube, the current production is old stock.
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jhm731

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« Reply #3 on: 10 Nov 2012, 08:18 pm »
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Ericus Rex

Re: Has the Black Treasure tube gone the way of the dodo?
« Reply #4 on: 10 Nov 2012, 09:30 pm »
Quote from: jhm731 on 10 Nov 2012, 08:18 pm
Parts connecxion has them on sale:

http://www.partsconnexion.com/tube_new_shuguang.html


Did you notice the "Discontinued once sold" signs in the listing?  I'm just curious if Shuguang has stopped producing the BT? Or is the line not being imported b/c it's no longer the flavor of the month?  Sure had a fairly short run, huh?  Anyone know if the Psvane Premium is just the BT with gold pins and a shnazzy base?  And is the Psvane HiFi just a rebranded standard Shuguang?
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Re: Has the Black Treasure tube gone the way of the dodo?
« Reply #5 on: 10 Nov 2012, 09:36 pm »
Quote from: Ericus Rex on 10 Nov 2012, 09:30 pm
Did you notice the "Discontinued once sold" signs in the listing?  I'm just curious if Shuguang has stopped producing the BT? Or is the line not being imported b/c it's no longer the flavor of the month?  Sure had a fairly short run, huh?  Anyone know if the Psvane Premium is just the BT with gold pins and a shnazzy base?  And is the Psvane HiFi just a rebranded standard Shuguang?
Yes this is correct, Pavane or Psvane is now made in the Guiguang factory, aka NGG, no more in the Shuguang factoty:

http://www.ggtube.net/en/index.php

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Re: Has the Black Treasure tube gone the way of the dodo?
« Reply #6 on: 1 Dec 2012, 04:25 am »

Spoke with Chris at Partsconnexion a couple of days ago while ordering some NOS bottles - he says they were just clearing out the old stock because there are new generations of the Psvane and Treasure tubes coming onto the market right now. If you're a fan on these tubes, fear not.

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Re: Has the Black Treasure tube gone the way of the dodo?
« Reply #7 on: 3 Dec 2012, 03:36 pm »
IIRC Psvane basically spun off and is their own company now operating out of their own little corner of the Guigang factory.  Black Treasure is still a Shuguang brand.  Discontinuing of old products and development of new ones will probably cement the differences between the two.
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Ericus Rex

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« Reply #8 on: 3 Dec 2012, 03:56 pm »
Very curious to know what Shuguang has planned for the BT line.
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SlushPuppy

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« Reply #9 on: 3 Dec 2012, 04:06 pm »
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Alleye

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« Reply #10 on: 15 Dec 2012, 11:59 pm »
Looks like Parts Connexion has the Psvane Treasure MKII's in stock... Curious...

http://www.partsconnexion.com/tube_psvane_mk2.html
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Re: Has the Black Treasure tube gone the way of the dodo?
« Reply #11 on: 16 Dec 2012, 12:11 am »
Quote from: Alleye on 15 Dec 2012, 11:59 pm
Looks like Parts Connexion has the Psvane Treasure MKII's in stock... Curious...

http://www.partsconnexion.com/tube_psvane_mk2.html
Question: These new Psvane 211 & 845 are the regular 100W plate or the another short leg 75W version??
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