RMAF 2012

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AlexG

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RMAF 2012
« on: 16 Oct 2012, 07:19 pm »
We had a blast of good times this year at the show! I would like to thank all the people and customers that visited our room and spend some time talking and listening. This goes also to the AC crazy bunch!!

Very important to mention...both Klaus and I "profoundly" agreed that this years sound coming out of our room was the best we had experienced so far at RMAF - while in past years we were very happy, this year it was something special! The big difference of course was adding professional acoustic treatments to the room....what a real difference...no kidding!! It was so emotionally musical that you could listen and listen and listen forever...

To this end I have to personally thank both Glenn and Brian from GIK Acoustics who team up with us this year at the show. Job well done guys!!

I have attached a couple pictures below.




 


All the best to everyone and thanks again.

Alex

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Re: RMAF 2012
« Reply #1 on: 16 Oct 2012, 09:22 pm »
First of all Great Show! What is the cost of the Reference Bookshelf speakers and do you have a spec sheet?
Thanks!

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Re: RMAF 2012
« Reply #2 on: 16 Oct 2012, 09:32 pm »
Is that a stratos stereo amp driving both speakers?

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Re: RMAF 2012
« Reply #3 on: 16 Oct 2012, 10:16 pm »
Would like to know the specs on those speakers also...

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Re: RMAF 2012
« Reply #4 on: 16 Oct 2012, 10:19 pm »
Kismet Reference Monitor $3500, including stands I believe. ScanSpeak Revelator 4531 and ScanSpeak beryllium tweeter.

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Re: RMAF 2012
« Reply #5 on: 17 Oct 2012, 12:36 am »
Answering a couple questions,

The speakers are the Kismet Reference Monitors priced at $3,500 - drivers used are the Scan Speak Revelators and Beryllium tweeters. Two way crossover built in house using premium components including Sonicaps capacitors. They are rated at 87dB.

The amp used was a Stratos Stereo SE with extra capacitors.

Alex

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Re: RMAF 2012
« Reply #6 on: 17 Oct 2012, 01:30 am »
Very cool that these are chosen as the best of the best sound at RMAF. Just goes to show you don't need exotic drivers and wizzbang layouts, just good design.

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Re: RMAF 2012
« Reply #7 on: 17 Oct 2012, 04:20 pm »
Answering a couple questions,

The speakers are the Kismet Reference Monitors priced at $3,500 - drivers used are the Scan Speak Revelators and Beryllium tweeters. Two way crossover built in house using premium components including Sonicaps capacitors. They are rated at 87dB.

The amp used was a Stratos Stereo SE with extra capacitors.

Alex

Alex, I'm kind of suprised that you ran a Stratos over a Kismet.  Was this to demonstrate what is possible at the $5900 price point? 

Do you have any new info in new products, e.g. the Kismet Pre?

Bob

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« Reply #8 on: 18 Oct 2012, 06:55 am »

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Re: RMAF 2012
« Reply #9 on: 18 Oct 2012, 10:10 pm »
The Odyssey/GIK room did more to advance the cause of high end audio for the middle class than any other that I visited.  I wish Odyssey sold through dealers so I could be a part of their high value audio in service to music philosophy (my words, not Klaus's).  That said, I haven't heard another $5900 system that comes close to theirs.  Kudos to Klaus and Glenn!

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Re: RMAF 2012
« Reply #10 on: 18 Oct 2012, 10:33 pm »
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Alex, I'm kind of surprised that you ran a Stratos over a Kismet.  Was this to demonstrate what is possible at the $5900 price point? 

Do you have any new info in new products, e.g. the Kismet Pre?

Bob,

That is correct - Klaus was set in having a complete system (Amp, Preamp, Speakers and Cables) under $6,000. If we would add the Kismet Amp, the price would be higher. But let me tell you...it did very well!!

The Kismet Pre is still a working process...and no set date yet. It has taken longer that what I anticipated but when designing a unit I don't like to rush things.  :nono:

Alex

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Re: RMAF 2012
« Reply #11 on: 21 Oct 2012, 07:19 am »
Hi Guys,

Finally back home...somewhat rested..........slept 15 hours...........11 days, 5 at the show non-stop,  2 system installs on the way back,  3200 miles,  aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh.

Thanks a mill to all of you for making this RMAF show truly great.  This has been my 70th show,  and it was one of the best,  performance, business, and fun-wise.  You know who you guys are,  a big, big thanks from me and Irina.

As to the show,  here are some of my thoughts.

- GIK's are very good,  no surprise.  For once, I didn't have to fight the room,  and actually,  achieved somewhere in the neighborhood of 90 % of what I have at home,  in my show room.

- Melting away,  awash with emotions,  goose bumps all over,  true realism.  Thanks for the vine,  but man,  I'm preaching this forever. 

- The Kismet reference monitors,  yup,  they are awesome in every respect,  (Beryllium, baby) but speakers always get the lion share of attention.  just look at all of the threads here.  Let's not forget the rest of the system,  including big kudos to Alex for designing the Suspiro phono stage. man oh man,  it is good.

- And yes,  it was a Stratos stereo plus SE running(ALBEIT SOME MODS TO BE COMPLETELY HONEST) in order to bring the system cost below 6 K. 

- Attendance was definitely down big time this year,  which was a good thing.  We set up the room as a non-compromise high ender,  meaning there was really only 1 chair for the ultimate sweet spot.  Some serious attention has been paid to this spot, having Bryan come in and set up the GIK's,  clearing my head, and  working for 3 hours straight until 4 am to get the absolute best interaction with the room.  Funny, how your mind always seem to play tricks,  but somehow,  it was obvious when it was "there".  Very obvious, because it was so wide, deep, precise, and natural,  AWESOME !!!!!!  GIK, baby.  Anyway,  we seemed to have a lot more serious listeners who were able to listen for longer periods of time without feeling bad that they took away chair time from others.  That's what I would have wanted as a show goer.

-  During the show,  I promised to behave myself,  and guess what ???  I did.  It helped that I left most of my crazy stuff at home.  So,  it was fantastic when Jonathon, Standub and others brought their heavy music to rock out on. 

- The best moments for me at a show is when a listener brings his own music.  I usually put in the disc,  and hand over the remote and tell him/her to go nuts.  For one,  and for whatever reason (actually,  we all know why) other exhibitors don't do this at all.  But what is the point then when you can't hear your own music to evaluate system x y z ???
In addition,  this is a great way to hear new tunes.

- Same goes with the lighting.  If there is a truly dedicated listening group who want to stay for a while,  I tend to turn off the lights for several reasons.  Obviously,  it sounds better in subjective terms,  but also,  it discourages people to just come in and walk around or talk, etc.  Everything seems to be more serious, and yet, more relaxing at the same time.  It's a bit tricky,  and I'm doing this at shows for over 20 years,  but when it works, it works great. 

- This brings me to our music.  We don't have any "audiophile" music, even though this is misleading since our tunes from regular over the shelf records sound fantastic.  What is "audiophile" anyway ???  Many of you asked us about our play lists.  Well,  there are many, of course,  but the main show pieces on disc were:

Stevie Ray,  Tin Pan Alley
Pink Floyd,  The Wall
Lou Reed,  Walk on the wild side
Radka Tonnef,  The moon is a harsh mistress
Anna Lotte Larsen,  The Rose
Shostakovich Symphony # 9,  Inbal / Vienna
Rawhide, Kunzel / Cincy Pops

As for LP's:
Alan Parsons,  The Raven
Joan Baez,  Diamonds and Rust
Pink Panther Soundtrack
Supertramp / School
John Hiatt, Have a little faith in me
Cracker,  I can't forget you

AND OF COURSE MILES,  Time after time live


  It was nice to catch up with many of you AC'ers.  And as for Tyson and Jason, same goes as last year.  A great job,  great ears, great sense of what systems actually do,  great writing,  and yup,  you are completely, wonderfully  looney for doing this the way you do it.
Finally, in retrospective,  it is fantastic to have a wife that not only supports my crazy job, life style, and hours,  but who is always game to just "go".  And a big shout-out to our 2 dogs, Precious the Pom-a-poo,  and Powder, the Samoyed-Border mix.  They are incredible travel companions, who make my trips so much more fun.  Oh yeah, the black hills and Badlands are badass.


Late,

Klaus

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Re: RMAF 2012
« Reply #12 on: 21 Oct 2012, 08:40 pm »
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The best moments for me at a show is when a listener brings his own music.  I usually put in the disc,  and hand over the remote and tell him/her to go nuts.

One reason your room is one of my first stops at the show Klaus..... :rock:

And to see you...  :thumb:

Nice to hear your room rocked again this year....:beer:


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Stevie Ray,  Tin Pan Alley

Yes...it's long...but this track is so good.... "Riviera Paradise"  :thumb:

Haoleb

Re: RMAF 2012
« Reply #13 on: 21 Oct 2012, 09:23 pm »
I agree with that "audiophile music" comment. Personally I think its funny most "audiophiles" seem to (from what I can tell) listen to classical,jazz etc... Not much of a fan myself. I love to crank up the rock or top 40 pop all the time. Yeah its not really "sophisticated' but its fun. who cares?  :thumb:

Don_S

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« Reply #14 on: 22 Oct 2012, 01:34 am »
I can't find this one. Little help please.

Anna Lotte Larsen,  The Rose

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Re: RMAF 2012
« Reply #15 on: 22 Oct 2012, 03:06 am »
Klaus, Alex & Brian,

Terrific job this year. The Odyssey room is always one of the best sounds at RMAF and this year you out did yourself. Joan Baez' Diamonds & Rust and Supertramp's School and Bloody Well Right sounded great and drew me into the music in a wonderful way. I've posted in another circle and on Stereophile that I went to the Odyssey room after listening to the insanely priced VTL amps and Wilson Alexia speakers and found that the Odyssey room just blew the socks off of the VTL/Wilson room. Much more musical and emotionally engaging. That you could get sound this great for less than $6,000 is a tribute to your designs and build quality. Congratulations!

You always have the best music, and your room definitely rocks. :rock:

Alex, great job on the phono stage.

Bryan, super job with the room treatments.

Klaus, I enjoyed meeting Irina. :thumb:

Laura

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Re: RMAF 2012
« Reply #18 on: 23 Oct 2012, 02:38 pm »
Good to see you again Laura.  Too bad it's only once a year.

Bryan

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Re: RMAF 2012
« Reply #19 on: 24 Oct 2012, 04:01 am »
Congratulations ! I will take a look at those giks  :P

I have owned stratos amps for 12 or 13 years and I still love they way they look like, black stratos with silver top cover, bad ass looking !