Lots of hi-end stuff, but what about entry level stuff ?

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Letitroll98

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Re: Lots of hi-end stuff, but what about entry level stuff ?
« Reply #40 on: 2 Nov 2012, 03:28 am »

  No problem for me. Live nd learn.  My mistake for not knowing the limitations of system cost in this circle.  Just trying to help. OK then how about Lumience Audio passive preamp ? EMU Amps and preamp. EMU DAC.


charles

Sorry for being late with a reply Charles, business etc. interferes.  I know I've seen the Lumience Audio passive preamp and the EMU stuff somewhere, but I can't find it on the web.  Wasn't the Lumience a little unit in the Salk/AVA room at Capfest 2011?  A silent display only?  And where did I hear of EMU?  I thought they make mainly pro gear, correct?  (Ha! I wrote manly pro gear, maybe that's more descriptive)  Anyway, help an old, feeble mind out here Charles, can you give more info about the products?

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Re: Lots of hi-end stuff, but what about entry level stuff ?
« Reply #41 on: 2 Nov 2012, 05:01 am »
Maybe he mean's this:

http://luminousaudio.com/axiom.html

I remember them from back to the 1st Capital Audio Fest.  I think back then the basic passive pre-amp w/ only one input and an ALPS (?) pot was like $150?

As for the C&C sub $1K system thread : got some thinking to do to throw down an initial post (if someone doesn't beat me to it). 

Agreed that it would be best to have ground rules of just a system list with say minimum source, amp, speaker (or powered speaker), cabling w/ pricing & preferably links.  Maybe no headphone only as speaker.  Not that this is a bad way to go w/ a limited budget, but somehow speaker seems more interesting.

Obviously used gear opens up the possibilities even more endlessly - and that pricing can be harder to nail down.  On the other hand - I think it would be an interesting challenge & somewhat of a proof that $1K is not totally unreasonable for a decent system. Heck : most non-audiophile people gravitating towards a home theater in a box or other "lifestyle" systems I know would think it was even maybe a generous budget!

Then maybe a sub $500 system thread to get even more challenging - but now getting way ahead of myself....

Guy 13

Re: Lots of hi-end stuff, but what about entry level stuff ?
« Reply #42 on: 2 Nov 2012, 10:01 am »

Hi all Audio Circle members.

Of course you can get/build a sound system including
a CD, turntable, amplifier and speakers for less than
1,000USD, all new stuff.

(Of course if you go used,
for the same price you can get much better quality components.)

The system can include the following:
A Denon DP-29F turntable w/built in phono stage (150.00USD),
a Teac AG-790A Receiver w/Remote (200.00USD)
a Teac CD-P1260 CD Player (180.00USD)
a pair of Teac LS-H265 Bookshelf Speakers (200.00USD)
Total: 730.00USD
Information and prices were found on Needle Doctor web site.
I don’t think Needle Doctor have the best prices…
But it only an exercise.

Of course this system is far, far away from being hi-end,
it’s more like low end,
but with a system like that,
you might be infected by the audiophile virus…
Did we not all started that way? 

Guy 13

rbbert

Re: Lots of hi-end stuff, but what about entry level stuff ?
« Reply #43 on: 2 Nov 2012, 01:22 pm »
Going with more than one source component in a low cost system is foolish, IMHO; the money spent on the second source would give far greater sonic returns if devoted to electronics and speakers.

Guy 13

Re: Lots of hi-end stuff, but what about entry level stuff ?
« Reply #44 on: 2 Nov 2012, 01:26 pm »
Going with more than one source component in a low cost system is foolish, IMHO; the money spent on the second source would give far greater sonic returns if devoted to electronics and speakers.

Hi rbbert and all Audio Circle members.

I agree with you, even if I don't like the word foolish,
but that inexpensive system is for someone like me
that own lot's of LP and CD and love lisening to FM.

Guy 13

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Re: Lots of hi-end stuff, but what about entry level stuff ?
« Reply #45 on: 2 Nov 2012, 05:36 pm »
Let's see some picture! I really think I need to do this in my small room, but have no clue where to start.

I updated the pictures in this thread: http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=110572.new#new

charmerci

Re: Lots of hi-end stuff, but what about entry level stuff ?
« Reply #46 on: 2 Nov 2012, 08:01 pm »
Ooops. We were talking about around $1K systems - so I made the assumption that people would know that they were $800.  :duh:

Anyway, Dennis is going to be using different cabinets with the same drivers than the ones that I have. You have to go to www.philharmonicaudio.com and send him a message asking for details. The new ones will probably be cheaper but I'm not positive about that.

Also, they are custom built for each person so it can be up to a couple months to receive them.

charmerci

Re: Lots of hi-end stuff, but what about entry level stuff ?
« Reply #47 on: 2 Nov 2012, 08:12 pm »
I think I have one of those old Denon recievers. Worth more than $40 bucks to me, even if it is not really doing anything at the moment.  :)

Mine's a DRA-635R - 80 watts/channel is plenty enough loud for me - well, I don't like to push my speakers too much. It says it's a "New Optical Class A" amp. Whatever the hell that is.  :scratch: http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=469337  But it sounds fine.  :thumb:

WC

Re: Lots of hi-end stuff, but what about entry level stuff ?
« Reply #48 on: 2 Nov 2012, 08:55 pm »
Mine is a DRA-345R which is a lesser model. 45 W/channel. Based on a search of the internet I could probably get $20 for it. I'll just keep it until it dies instead.   :)

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Re: Lots of hi-end stuff, but what about entry level stuff ?
« Reply #49 on: 2 Nov 2012, 10:15 pm »
Ooops. We were talking about around $1K systems - so I made the assumption that people would know that they [Philharmonic Audio .5 monitor] were $800.  :duh:   Also, they are custom built for each person so it can be up to a couple months to receive them.

Along the lines of portioning more than 50% of the $1K system budget to speakers (and liking ribbon tweeters), I am wondering how Fountek's own NuScale 216 speaker might fare at $590/pair with off-the-shelf availability.
 
They use the Fountek NeoCD3.0 ribbon and the Fountek FW168SE 6.5" woofer.  From what I can tell they are only available in the U.S. from Madisound (and only in Cherry veneer).  With a -3dB point of 45Hz, they have an expected lowish sensitivity of ~ 84dB, so I would likely need to pair them with a 50W to 75W amplifier.
 
Steve
 

bummrush

Re: Lots of hi-end stuff, but what about entry level stuff ?
« Reply #50 on: 2 Nov 2012, 10:36 pm »
Looks like a good price, hard to go wrong

charmerci

Re: Lots of hi-end stuff, but what about entry level stuff ?
« Reply #51 on: 2 Nov 2012, 11:27 pm »

Along the lines of portioning more than 50% of the $1K system budget to speakers (and liking ribbon tweeters), I am wondering how Fountek's own NuScale 216 speaker might fare at $590/pair with off-the-shelf availability.
 
Steve

Yup. It uses the same ribbon tweeter as mine. The reason that I went my way though is because Dennis Murphy is a highly respected crossover designer.  http://murphyblaster.com/content.php?f=main.html  There are quite a few DIY projects there.