The Beatles On Vinyl Box Set

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dminches

Re: The Beatles On Vinyl Box Set
« Reply #40 on: 1 Oct 2012, 04:00 pm »
Supposedly new 24/96 masters, but probably with the same EQ and limiting as the 2009 releases.  Only time will tell.

The part about EQ and limiting is completely unknown.  I would guess there would be EQing for vinyl and no limiting.

roscoeiii

Re: The Beatles On Vinyl Box Set
« Reply #41 on: 1 Oct 2012, 04:08 pm »
As you can see from the quote firedog gave, there is no limiting on these vinyl releases.

firedog

Re: The Beatles On Vinyl Box Set
« Reply #42 on: 3 Oct 2012, 02:44 pm »
From Analog Planet (I'm not the person who wrote the letter, I'm just quoting):

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“Just for kicks, I sent an email to Abbey Road Studios, regarding the Beatles vinyl remasters, asking:

Simple question – were these mastered using the 24/192 digital masters or 24/44.1?

Thanks!
Dave

“I got this response this morning:

Hi Dave,

Thank you for your email.

For the recent Beatles remasters, The original tapes were copied to digital at 24/192k. The tracks were then remastered at 24/96 and the vinyl was cut from these 24/96K masters.

I hope this answers your question

Regards

Abbey Road Studios”

 
This seems to jibe with what the press release already said: Originals transferred to 24/192, edited for some sibilance reduction and EQ tweaks, saved/converted down to 24/96. LPs cut from the 24/96.

BTW, the article in the link confirms a mono vinyl set is planned.

orthobiz

Re: The Beatles On Vinyl Box Set
« Reply #43 on: 3 Oct 2012, 09:45 pm »
I find the 24/192 digitalization being potentially heard best on vinyl fascinating.

Paul

orthobiz

Re: The Beatles On Vinyl Box Set
« Reply #44 on: 7 Oct 2012, 11:15 pm »
I put in my preorder today. I think it will be interesting to find out what happens to the prices on the other box sets, MFSL and Blue Box, since people such as myself are opting for the new box.
BTW, Music Direct for 349 with free shipping.

Paul

bullmrkt

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Re: The Beatles On Vinyl Box Set
« Reply #45 on: 14 Nov 2012, 02:15 am »
Amazon has it for $319 now. Any listening impressions yet?

orthobiz

Re: The Beatles On Vinyl Box Set
« Reply #46 on: 14 Nov 2012, 09:44 pm »
I listened to one side of The Beatles, all of Help!, all of Let It Be yesterday. So far sound quality is good, slight undulation of the vinyl but not any major warp. No scratches, etc. Pretty quiet.

I read that Abbey Road has problems, so I will check it next. The box is really cool.

Glad this thread is resurrected. I made a mistake with my other post!

Paul

roscoeiii

Re: The Beatles On Vinyl Box Set
« Reply #47 on: 14 Nov 2012, 10:09 pm »
Yeah, sounds like pressing quality is a bit inconsistent for US pressed versions (done at Rainbo IIRC). Look forward to more impressions.

rbbert

Re: The Beatles On Vinyl Box Set
« Reply #48 on: 14 Nov 2012, 11:38 pm »
It's more than a little ridiculous that these are being released on vinyl and not digital (and the music industry wonders why it is hurting financially   :scratch:).

I'm pretty sure I remember that the mastering chain for the CD's went something like:  24/192 > D to A > mastering on analog equipment (EQ, etc) > A to D (24/44.1) > CD (16/44.1).  So I wonder what the chain for these LP's is?

Answering my own question; apparently the same.   Boo!

orthobiz

Re: The Beatles On Vinyl Box Set
« Reply #49 on: 15 Nov 2012, 10:45 pm »
My Abbey Road looks great. I cleaned it and used Audio Intelligent one step on my vacuum cleaner. Listened to side 1 and got called away. Side 2 today...

Did anybody else receive their box yet? The packaging from Music Direct was incredible, it had custom cut foam around it and was bullet proof. My Beatles Box arrived perfectly unscathed.

Paul

orientalexpress

Re: The Beatles On Vinyl Box Set
« Reply #50 on: 15 Nov 2012, 10:51 pm »
You Guys suck :duh:


























Mine arriving tomorrow NOT bad ,consider i place my order on sunday.



 :thumb:



lapsan

firedog

Re: The Beatles On Vinyl Box Set
« Reply #51 on: 16 Nov 2012, 02:15 pm »
Vinyl was cut from the 24/44.1 masters, but from before the light volume compression was added for CD. Disappointing.

Michael Fremer review: new set is good, but not nearly as good as original UK pressings, even after repeated plays.

He also said if you have the 24/44.1 USB stick and a very good DAC, no reason to get the new vinyl.

vinyl_guy

Re: The Beatles On Vinyl Box Set
« Reply #52 on: 16 Nov 2012, 04:12 pm »
I arrived back home last night from a business trip and my box set remains unopened in the shipping box from Acoustic Sounds. I am debating returning the box unopended for credit. The marketing hype implied these would be higher resolution than 24/44.1. After listening to Sean Magee interview by Michael Fremer (http://www.analogplanet.com/content/abbey-road-studios-sean-magee-talks-about-mastering-beatles-lp-box), I am disappointed. They could have, and should have done better. I have the U.K. Blue Box and the MoFi Collection so it's not like I need more Beatles records.

Laura

TONEPUB

Re: The Beatles On Vinyl Box Set
« Reply #53 on: 16 Nov 2012, 06:00 pm »
Anybody out there read this 28 years ago:

28 years to stroll the English countryside (or the boulevards of Paris ...  :lol:) to find near mint originals.

A:  Much as I love HP, don't know if I've ever considered him an expert on rock recordings.

B:  For everyone who hates the MoFi Beatles lp's, i've met someone else who does like them. 

Of course, first stamper British, German and Japanese pressings all have a lot to offer, but who can afford them?

But then I don't understand why people buy seven copies of the same records..

To each their own.


One more thing, not having heard the master tapes, who knows what they are really "supposed" to sound
like?

SteveRB

Re: The Beatles On Vinyl Box Set
« Reply #54 on: 16 Nov 2012, 06:03 pm »
...another Beatles release.

( ...sigh)

TONEPUB

Re: The Beatles On Vinyl Box Set
« Reply #55 on: 16 Nov 2012, 06:32 pm »
Really good DAC on hand, so probably going to be sticking with that.

I ordered a set to give them a listen, but will probably be selling them in a week or two, so if anyone
would like a good deal on a set that's been gently listened to once or twice, drop me a PM.  (I've already
got the Mofis, BC 12 box and the remasters, so that's all I need.)

cheap-Jack

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Re: The Beatles On Vinyl Box Set
« Reply #56 on: 16 Nov 2012, 07:17 pm »
Hi.
Amazon has it for $319 now. Any listening impressions yet?

That's a lot of money, my friend.

I've got Beatles 1962-1966 "The Red Album" - 2 LPs set for $35.00 brandnew on a closing-down sale many years back. It still sounds pretty good though not digitally remastered.

I know the same album was remastered digitally for release in 2-CD album.

Now I've got 12 digitally mastered classical LPs from my favourite thrift store, all cost me only 75 cents a pop. Yes, they all sound very dynamic, clean & quiet, yet lacking the clinicalness of redbook CDs. I like them over any redbook CDs.

I've got DVD-audio (24bit 192KHz) for many years before I switched to vinyl. I still love vinyl much better over DVD-A. More human, organic & engaging.

That said, I just start auditioning Blu-ray musics on stereo (NOT 5.1 HT). Sound pretty good, for sure better than any redbook CDs.

Also I've started to play stereo music CDs on Blu-ray player with stereo O/P to feed my stereo system.
Surprisingly they ALL sound so much better than playing redbook CD players.

Too early to draw conclusion yet. Let' see.

c-J




orthobiz

Re: The Beatles On Vinyl Box Set
« Reply #57 on: 16 Nov 2012, 09:54 pm »
Listened to Side 2 Abbey Road. Seems like it is not as dynamic as I remember (or as I'd like). The end of the album is a bit noisy.

As for the set, I do not have a Blue Box or MoFi or anything more than a scattered few Beatles releases. This completes my collection and overall I am happy. Ripping the plastic shrink on each of the disks before I listen to them is satisfying in and of itself! The covers are glossy and to me, look and feel just fine. The inner sleeves, poly-lined (black or white depending on disk) are nice. The weight of the records is good.

When it comes to new vinyl, I'm not much of a complainer. A few disks have minor undulations and are not completely flat, but I'm using the VPI more than the Linn lately anyway. And labels that are slightly off center (and I mean slightly) don't bother me at all.

I'm curious if the Blue Box and MoFi sets will come down a bit in price now that the market is flooded with this new vinyl. After all several of us probably have multiples anyway. I could always get just one more...

As for c-J's comments, to each his own. I love a good bargain, too!

Paul

bullmrkt

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Re: The Beatles On Vinyl Box Set
« Reply #58 on: 17 Nov 2012, 08:20 am »
Hi.
That's a lot of money, my friend.

I've got Beatles 1962-1966 "The Red Album" - 2 LPs set for $35.00 brandnew on a closing-down sale many years back. It still sounds pretty good though not digitally remastered.

I know the same album was remastered digitally for release in 2-CD album.

Now I've got 12 digitally mastered classical LPs from my favourite thrift store, all cost me only 75 cents a pop. Yes, they all sound very dynamic, clean & quiet, yet lacking the clinicalness of redbook CDs. I like them over any redbook CDs.

I've got DVD-audio (24bit 192KHz) for many years before I switched to vinyl. I still love vinyl much better over DVD-A. More human, organic & engaging.

That said, I just start auditioning Blu-ray musics on stereo (NOT 5.1 HT). Sound pretty good, for sure better than any redbook CDs.

Also I've started to play stereo music CDs on Blu-ray player with stereo O/P to feed my stereo system.
Surprisingly they ALL sound so much better than playing redbook CD players.

Too early to draw conclusion yet. Let' see.

c-J

Ok...thats great but I think you're reading way too far into my post. I was just pointing out the cheapest source of the OP subject matter, and asking for listening impressions of the OP subject matter.

Ian

vinyl_guy

Re: The Beatles On Vinyl Box Set
« Reply #59 on: 18 Nov 2012, 04:48 pm »
The owner of my local record store needed 3 for customers and only received 2, so I sold my unopened box for what I paid. Hopefully the mono set will be AAA or at least 24/192 or 24/96. The marketing hype by Apple where they implied/said the vinyl was cut from the higher res files is bs at best and misrepresentation at worse. FWIW, I let Apple know my extreme disappointment in using the 24/44.1 prior to compression.