Another shop down - the death of CD's

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whanafi

Another shop down - the death of CD's
« on: 11 Aug 2012, 11:50 am »
Attended the closing sale at another CD retailer today.  I thought they were just closing this location, but there were additional signs indicating their main branch will be having a "Good-bye to the CD" sale this month. 

While I have been listening to music digitally (primarily from CD rips) for a decade, I really miss the experience of shopping in a well-stocked shop staffed by knowledgeable people.  The chance to find new music serendipitously as you browse is one of life's great pleasures.  Like bookstores, it is increasingly difficult to find such a place. 

Ironically, specialist vinyl places are popping up, but they cover such a thin slice of the music market that the impact is minor. 

And even more ironically, Pirate Bay now has a deeper back catalogue than the local retail scene.  I don't want to get into the debate about the legalities or morality of downloading, but when the industry refuses to take your money....

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2bigears

Re: Another shop down - the death of CD's
« Reply #1 on: 11 Aug 2012, 05:06 pm »
 :D  " serendip..."  what a word .. i think i heard that word in a chick-flic once ..
     times they are a changin"   
       



whanafi

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« Reply #2 on: 11 Aug 2012, 06:35 pm »
:D  " serendip..."  what a word .. i think i heard that word in a chick-flic once ..
     times they are a changin"   
       

literacy - another dying art.

Chicago

Re: Another shop down - the death of CD's
« Reply #3 on: 11 Aug 2012, 07:33 pm »
There is a independent shop I frequent and the owner has an amazing ability to remember what you like and point out new artists or releases he thinks you will enjoy.  I try and not go there more than once a month because a trip is usually going to cost me north of $150.  I sure hope he hangs in there but it has to be tough.


2bigears

Re: Another shop down - the death of CD's
« Reply #4 on: 11 Aug 2012, 07:51 pm »
literacy - another dying art.
               indubitably ,,,, easy there big fella.... anyone here worried about 8 tracks or cassettes .     :D 
now big black discs are another story ....

Sparky14

Re: Another shop down - the death of CD's
« Reply #5 on: 11 Aug 2012, 07:57 pm »
I was vacationing in Seattle a couple of weeks ago....it was so great to see several small CD/Vinyl stores still open. I drove my family crazy while I browsed.

I live midway between LA and San Diego. I am not aware of a open music store within 30 minutes of me. Very sad.

2bigears

Re: Another shop down - the death of CD's
« Reply #6 on: 11 Aug 2012, 08:40 pm »
 :D  it is sad to see them slippin away one by one..... it's evel-lution  ,, progression ,, ya best get on-line these days .....  :D

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Re: Another shop down - the death of CD's
« Reply #7 on: 11 Aug 2012, 08:46 pm »
I was in my local shop today. The place was busy.

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Re: Another shop down - the death of CD's
« Reply #8 on: 11 Aug 2012, 09:02 pm »
All the CD stores in my region are doing well fully stocked and well priced. I think most people will be unpleasantly surprised how long the CD will remain a music medium for years to come. Of course, time will tell the ultimate truth of course of this format.

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« Reply #9 on: 11 Aug 2012, 09:25 pm »

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« Reply #10 on: 11 Aug 2012, 10:21 pm »
It's such a shame to see these stores dwindling by the year. This is inevitable, unfortunately. I am speaking in regards to the "mom & pop" stores. I honestly could care less about the box stores. They could perish for all I care. I support and will continue to support the M&P stores. If they can provide me with good customer service and a decent selection, I will support them. Downloads are easy and convenient, but as a consumer who enjoys something tangible, I feel cheated buying virtual. In addition, the cost is still the same, if not higher when you download. This is an intelligent decision by the industry. I understand a profit must be made, more the better, but there is still a market that feels the same as I. So, as for now there is some money to be made by these stores. Good luck to them.

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Re: Another shop down - the death of CD's
« Reply #11 on: 11 Aug 2012, 11:57 pm »
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Hard to compete with this:

http://athensga.craigslist.org/emd/3180145455.html/quote]

That's a very extreme example.  :lol: The majority of the worlds population still uses cd as in medium. Just like albums you will always be able to get a hard copy (cd or equivalent) as oppose to a soft copy (download).

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« Reply #12 on: 12 Aug 2012, 12:09 am »
  So far,in Vancouver, the cds are alive and well.There have been a steady line of new releases in the shops here.We have several HMV stores plus a dedicated Classical/Jazz (Sekoras') store downtown ( they also carry used LPs.) The HMV's  also carry movies and games which may contribute their future survival . :thumb:

whanafi

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« Reply #13 on: 12 Aug 2012, 04:13 am »
  So far,in Vancouver, the cds are alive and well.There have been a steady line of new releases in the shops here.We have several HMV stores plus a dedicated Classical/Jazz (Sekoras') store downtown ( they also carry used LPs.) The HMV's  also carry movies and games which may contribute their future survival . :thumb:

I thought the big HMV downtown had closed.  And A&B Sound is gone, along with Tower.  Most of what I see when travelling are little box shops selling top 40 and nothing else.

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« Reply #14 on: 12 Aug 2012, 03:35 pm »
 Yes the big HMV store closed but there are small stores in malls . A&B Sound closed a long time ago mostly due to lousy management

JBLMVBC

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« Reply #15 on: 12 Aug 2012, 05:51 pm »
In Vancouver, Kitsilano, there was a classical/jazz store called "The Magic Flute" with golden door handles...
We were new to the city at the time and in 2006 I went to see if they would care to listen to our freshly released solo piano Schubert/Liszt CD, recorded at CBC Studio 1 -for reference and considering it was an independently produced effort,  in CBC's program Sound Advice Rick Phillips gave it 3 solid stars-. Upon listening they could let us know if they'd be interested in carrying it in a bin "local pianists" or something of the sort.
The mannered portly baldy fellow looked at me as if I was a stain on his carpet. :evil:
Not interested at all, even to listen, now move along please...
A few months later, I heard this store closed for good. :thumb:

What went around came around and it did not take that long...
 

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« Reply #16 on: 12 Aug 2012, 09:16 pm »
 I well remember the store and that particular fellow..indeed. :evil:. The shop was up and running even when I came here(1986)  By the way A&B Sound was where I purchased my JBLs.  :thumb:

Waker

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« Reply #17 on: 12 Aug 2012, 10:30 pm »
The biggest, most savvy music stores do a good trade in used CDs and DVDS and also offer other goods, such as clothing, jewelry, incense, kitschy gifts, etc. Long live The Electric Fetus, one of the original underground head shops in the Twin Cities.  They also offer their in-store CD inventory online and as downloads. Check their site.

whanafi

Another shop down - the death of CD's
« Reply #18 on: 24 Aug 2012, 04:41 pm »
Music Shop Recognizes Somber Tune: Its Final Coda

By AARON EDWARDS
Published: August 23, 2012

It is a given among regulars at Colony Records that a customer need only whistle, hum, or “la, la, la” a few bars of a tune for an employee to recognize it. Through the narrow corridors and battered shelves of the cozy store in the storied Brill Building in Times Square, a knowing worker will then peruse and (more often than not) find the sheet music, vinyl record or CD the person is looking for.

Owners of the 64-year-old establishment, which is home to one of the largest sheet-music collections in the country, have confirmed that it will close its doors in the near future.

For years, Colony has represented the last remnants of a more intimate music culture.

The speed and specificity with which the task is completed could beat out some expert music shoppers who use Google or iTunes. But it is that age of search engines, file sharing and illegal music downloads that its owners say has led to the imminent downfall of Colony Records, a bastion of New York City’s intimate music store culture.

Owners of the store, on the corner of 49th Street and Broadway, confirmed Thursday that, after 64 years of business, it would shut down in the near future — possibly within the next few months — because of a dip in profits over the last few years caused by the shift in the music industry toward digital sales.

“Plenty of people come through these doors, but they buy less,” said Richard Turk, one of the owners. “Increased expenses and diminished sales have gotten us to a point where it’s not feasible to continue without a heavy struggle. We’ve had heavy struggles in the past, but the digital age has changed everything.”

Musicians, Broadway actors, reporters and other denizens of Times Square have long frequented the store, which has one of the most extensive collections of sheet music in the country. Stacks of Stephen Sondheim and Andrew Lloyd Webber share space with contemporary pop music. (Yes, the shop has Justin Bieber, Lady Gaga and “Glee.”) And just inches away from any new rock album is a timeless keepsake — a dusty Gershwin or a Sinatra.

Mr. Turk and Michael Grossbardt, another owner, said the store housed thousands of musical scores and recordings.

Its current home, the Brill Building, was a longtime home to songwriters, music producers, publishers and radio promoters. In its heyday in the 1950s and ’60s, before Colony Records occupied the ground floor, artists could record their music, find someone to promote it and get it produced for the radio — all under the same roof. After Colony moved to the building in the 1970s from its original location on 52nd Street and Broadway, artists could also go downstairs and buy sheet music to perform or audition with.

A younger generation of musicians and creative types is still drawn to the store. Teddy Tinson, 25, a fashion designer, said: “Even though I’m not an old-time New Yorker, it feels like a piece of New York will be lost. What it represents for a lot of people — their first audition or whatever it may be — it’s an emotional landmark.”

The extensive collection of music at Colony has also drawn celebrities. Colony’s owners recall once sneaking Michael Jackson through the side entrance to the basement to dodge swarming fans so that he could browse their collection and pick up unfamiliar works.

Vince Giordano, who leads the Nighthawks Orchestra and has frequented Colony since the 1970s, met the director and actor Tommy Tune there while they both looked for sheet music in the store’s aisles.

“He was searching for some obscure music and soundtracks, and I was, too,” Mr. Giordano said. “Everyone came there, from beginning novices to people really into the profession.”

Colony’s departure, visitors say, will leave an indelible bruise on a New York landscape that many say has become more ordinary as large corporations push smaller businesses out.

The tenor Robert White said Colony had been a destination for performers in a pinch. It was where he found the sheet music that RCA reproduced on the cover of his first album, a collection of turn-of-the-century ballads that he had already recorded.

“The music we had was boring-looking,” he recalled, “and Tom Shepard at RCA said, ‘We’d really like to get something that evokes the era. Don’t you have any other songs that we could copy for the cover?’ I went directly to Colony and told my problem to the man at the counter, and he said, ‘Wait a minute, I think I know just what you need.’ He gave me ‘I’ll Take You Home Again, Kathleen,’ an ancient copy of it with the crease where it had been bent over for years, and he said, ‘Tell RCA to take this one.’ ”

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Re: Another shop down - the death of CD's
« Reply #19 on: 26 Aug 2012, 08:03 pm »



This image kind of says it all for the "brick and mortar" CD stores. I mostly purchase my CDs on-line and will take a trip now and then to Sonic Boom, a used CD store in Toronto.

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