IMO the best Show on CABLE TV = THE NEWSROOM

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John Casler

IMO the best Show on CABLE TV = THE NEWSROOM
« on: 18 Jul 2012, 12:18 am »
IMO the best Show on CABLE TV = THE NEWSROOM

Didn't want this to be that good, but the writing, the acting, the production, the casting is 1st rate.

If you haven't seen it, try to catch 1st three episodes.

Really relevant and thought provoking.





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« Reply #1 on: 18 Jul 2012, 01:39 am »
Agreed 100%.

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« Reply #2 on: 18 Jul 2012, 02:59 am »
Excellent show, really enjoying it!!

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« Reply #3 on: 18 Jul 2012, 03:04 am »
Easily my favorite new show!

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« Reply #4 on: 18 Jul 2012, 03:16 am »
Seems fairly typical of Sorkin so far.....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S78RzZr3IwI

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« Reply #5 on: 19 Jul 2012, 02:50 pm »
Yes, great show.  BUT, I wonder about a key situation that creates much of the tension as the story develops.  The anchor renegotiates his contract so he can fire his new producer if he chooses. At first we learn that he gave up millions of dollars per year for this. He knows in advance that ratings will be sacrificed for content. Later we find out that he also agreed to an exclusivity  clause - he can't work for another network for three years if he quits or is fired.   :duh:    Maybe love is blind, but this is stupid beyond belief.  I also wonder just how masochistic he is.  I don't buy it. 

Wonder what happens next show.   

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« Reply #6 on: 19 Jul 2012, 05:31 pm »
Yes, great show.  BUT, I wonder about a key situation that creates much of the tension as the story develops.  The anchor renegotiates his contract so he can fire his new producer if he chooses. At first we learn that he gave up millions of dollars per year for this. He knows in advance that ratings will be sacrificed for content. Later we find out that he also agreed to an exclusivity  clause - he can't work for another network for three years if he quits or is fired.   :duh:    Maybe love is blind, but this is stupid beyond belief.  I also wonder just how masochistic he is.  I don't buy it. 

Wonder what happens next show.

Sorkin did an interview on HBO and explained that.  He said that said Anchor had a "love/hate" relationship with his producer, and, as in the case of LOVE, made the deal, in case the hate (or love) won out and he wasn't stuck working closely for/with a women who he needed to be away from.

That may be just as implausable, but one of the main subplots, is the game he and Blunt play with each other personally and professionally.  It, in fact is part of what drives the show.

The "non-compete" clause, which he stupidly allowed in his contract as a condition, adds to the tightrope he is forced to walk.   So not what you or I would do, if thinking rationally, but without the non-compete, he simply pulls up and goes to another station and Jane Fonda isn't able to hold it over his head.  It holds the show together for a full season  :lol:

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« Reply #7 on: 19 Jul 2012, 05:41 pm »
Thanks! The show definitely looks to be quite interesting.

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« Reply #8 on: 19 Jul 2012, 05:51 pm »
Thanks! The show definitely looks to be quite interesting.

Be prepared for "political" content, but the Anchor states staunchly he is a Republican, who looks for truth and morality instead of playing the game, which makes him "sound" like a liberal.  I find that interesting.

And further it is based on recent current events like the Oil Spill in the gulf and Gabbie Gifford being shot, so they use real news footage, adding to the reality of the drama.

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« Reply #9 on: 19 Jul 2012, 11:22 pm »
I had high hopes for this after seeing the ads.  First episode was ok.  After that they lost me, too much romantic fluff.

This part is more or less off topic : from the Newsroom website "... the team sets out on a patriotic (...) mission to “do the news well”".   :wtf:

"Patriotic" +  "news broadcast" doesn't equal "doing the news well".  Truth has no borders.

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« Reply #10 on: 20 Jul 2012, 12:41 am »
Sorkin did an interview on HBO and explained that.  He said that said Anchor had a "love/hate" relationship with his producer, and, as in the case of LOVE, made the deal, in case the hate (or love) won out and he wasn't stuck working closely for/with a women who he needed to be away from.

That may be just as implausable, but one of the main subplots, is the game he and Blunt play with each other personally and professionally.  It, in fact is part of what drives the show.

The "non-compete" clause, which he stupidly allowed in his contract as a condition, adds to the tightrope he is forced to walk.   So not what you or I would do, if thinking rationally, but without the non-compete, he simply pulls up and goes to another station and Jane Fonda isn't able to hold it over his head.  It holds the show together for a full season  :lol:


I think the show is exceptionally well acted and the writers/producers are setting up multiple interesting sub-plots. 

I do worry that the leftist bias will overpower my interest in the solid craft  and interesting stories the show offers.  As an example during the last episode they made fun of everyone who is/was concerned about the administrations distaste for second amendment protections - essentially labeling all those with questions are total nuts.  Never mind Eric Holder is Atty. General.

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« Reply #11 on: 20 Jul 2012, 03:42 am »
Tried to make it through the 2nd episode but it was just too much bloviating Sorkin-isms for me. All the men are walking condescending intellectual monologues and the women are two dimensional walking emotional mini-monologues; like he's trying to win an Oscar with every scene. You get pulled in by the clips until you realize the whole *show* is like that. As for politics it's cigar smoke liberalism best deliberated with a cocktail and Arianna Huffington by your contemporary pool overlooking Malibu Beach or Manhattan skyline.

Still think it's hilarious he was a crackhead.

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« Reply #12 on: 21 Jul 2012, 02:19 am »
Spoiler alert


I think the show is exceptionally well acted and the writers/producers are setting up multiple interesting sub-plots. 

I do worry that the leftist bias will overpower my interest in the solid craft  and interesting stories the show offers.  As an example during the last episode they made fun of everyone who is/was concerned about the administrations distaste for second amendment protections - essentially labeling all those with questions are total nuts.  Never mind Eric Holder is Atty. General.

The guise was truth in reporting, attacking right wing pundits perpetuating lies. First the cost of Obama's trip to India, then actual proliferation of gun ownership in the last 3 years. Damage control for anchor boy on a sat. morning, winds up as an emotional segment about Gabrielle Giffords.

Definitely leftist, no doubt about it.  The timing is interesting too. If I' not mistaken there's an election coming up. This could be more effective than a political action committee. It would be really interesting if they get to the recent Supreme Court decision on healthcare. I'm sure they would be overjoyed at the court ruling in favor of their own approval rating. But that's probably next season, if there is one.

My comments are based on the show, and not an endorsement for or against any political opinion.  We live in a time when most get their news from TV. The presentation seems to be increasingly slanted, even to the point of telling us how to think about a story before it's presented.  Any illumination of these issues is welcome IMO. Sorkin's presentation is obviously popular. All sorkisms aside, I won't miss the next show.

 
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« Reply #13 on: 21 Jul 2012, 03:46 am »
If it's well done, I'll watch almost any good show.  Right wing, left wing, about criminals, about saints, whatever.  But then again I know that nothing I ever say or do will ever matter in the large scale of politics.  Boys will be boys.  Politicians will be politicians.  Try not to let it get in the way of enjoying something good.  I've never seen this show, BTW. 

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« Reply #14 on: 23 Jul 2012, 02:47 am »
Already one of my "new" favorites along with Mad Men. I had a side job working in advertising production in the 60s and the show is right on.

Newsroom has already been renewed for the next season and the decision was based on the first two weeks numbers.

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« Reply #15 on: 23 Jul 2012, 07:08 pm »
If it's well done, I'll watch almost any good show.  Right wing, left wing, about criminals, about saints, whatever.  But then again I know that nothing I ever say or do will ever matter in the large scale of politics.  Boys will be boys.  Politicians will be politicians.  Try not to let it get in the way of enjoying something good.  I've never seen this show, BTW.


being Canuckian allows me a certain degree of emotional detachment from the personal politics - but of course doesn't isolate any of us from the global impacts if large (chains of ) events that are blind to left, right or centrist

AFAIC  this is certainly among the bravest fodder on TV at the moment - and whatever your "stripes", deserves to be applauded for the craft with which the stories are told  - a pretty gutsy move for Sorkin to replay out "factual" news (and get us to question what that actually means) that's so fresh in our group consciousness

The fact that there's some "romantic fluff", or that even brilliant people are capable of blind & self destructive behaviour, is, well kinda true to life in it's own way.         


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« Reply #16 on: 31 Jul 2012, 01:07 pm »
Tried to make it through the 2nd episode but it was just too much bloviating Sorkin-isms for me. All the men are walking condescending intellectual monologues and the women are two dimensional walking emotional mini-monologues; like he's trying to win an Oscar with every scene. You get pulled in by the clips until you realize the whole *show* is like that. As for politics it's cigar smoke liberalism best deliberated with a cocktail and Arianna Huffington by your contemporary pool overlooking Malibu Beach or Manhattan skyline.

Still think it's hilarious he was a crackhead.

SPOILER:

     I assume you missed episode 5, which degenerated into a near perfect realization of your description.  Three of the male supporting characters sustained injuries, two of which were self-inflicted.  Sam Waterston was exempted (probably for age/wisdom related realism).  It was funny, like watching a Daffy Duck cartoon with drama queen dialogue.  No doubt crackhead experience gives one a unique insight of the stressed and sleep deprived. Oversimplification of the demise of the Glass-Steagall Act was particularly stupid, especially coming from a supposed PHD in economics.  It was only mentioned, which makes it worse, assuming most people won't bother looking it up. Too big to fail is still very much with us, but a cat is hard to catch, once out of the bag. The cat eats his fill and becomes a very fat cat.

     Sorkin bounced back with episode 6, the psychology of Anchor Boy.  This show is great entertainment, IMO. I must admit, I always liked Daffy Duck.

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« Reply #17 on: 31 Jul 2012, 02:40 pm »
Newsroom is a great show. The overall concept is very appealing. Because of the way the show is presented, you can't take it seriously because it has its comedic moments (the star of the show has tremendous comedic talent -- remember the classic movie, "Dumb and Dumber?") and the staff is very quirky.

Americans would be much better informed if news anchors actually provided relevant facts and demanded the truth from interviewees. Many of us have stopped watching TV news because it's a bunch of crap. Newsroom offers a glimpse into what TV news really ought to be.

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« Reply #18 on: 31 Jul 2012, 05:42 pm »
Well he fired all the writers because he didn't get the rave reviews he wanted so next season should be interesting. Guessing he will do the bulk of the writing himself. Wonder how he'll accomplish all that?... :smoke: :rotflmao:

Never cared for Sorkin I guess with the exception of A Few Good Men. I prefer Mamet - fewer words the better.

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« Reply #19 on: 13 Aug 2012, 04:24 am »
WOW, just saw episode 8.  The show went from rags to riches in 1 week.  Now I know why Sorkin fired all the writers.  Those subplots were getting tired. I felt sorry for the actors, like Maggie being a psycho, et al.  Maybe I missed it, but I didn't notice any credits for staff writers.

I was about ready to write off this series as mildly amusing.  This shows what Sorkin can really do. This looks like it might become the best series on TV.  I don't watch much reg TV, so I just ordered the first season of The Unit.  Here's what Mamet said to his writers when the show was cancelled:

http://movieline.com/2010/03/23/david-mamets-memo-to-the-writers-of-the-unit/