[jrebman]

*** SOLD ***

This is somewhat of a fire sale situation as we are buying a new home and I need to pay offf a credit card and raise some cash to take to closing, so I am very reluctantly offering my Shindo Apetite integrated for sale.

This is the new Shindo Apetite -- not the long gone one that was sold as a diy kit many years back, but a whole new design: PP 6v6 integrated, 15 Watts Class A, 3 inputs and 8 ohm speaker outs (may be possible to rewire for other loads, but I'm not sure about that.)  Front panel controls include a hefty power switch, a selector knob and a volume knob, rear panel includes 3 pairs of RCA inputs, two pairs of binding posts and an IEC inlet and power cord (no aftermarket cords needed).  The amp is a compact 11" wide by 13" deep by 5-1/2" high (approx) and weighs 31 pounds and is built ilike all Shindo gear -- liike a tank.  Removable tube cage/cover and all ANOS tubes from Mr. Shindo's stock -- no substitutions have been made or are needed.  This amp has seen barely 100 hours play time is in mint condition and I have all original manuals, power cord, and packing materials and box (down to the last foam peanut.)

The sound of this amp is very much Shindo -- which is to say it's hard to describe, but truly a pleasure to listen to for extended periods on many different kinds of speakers.  It has a sense of power that belies it's power rating and a level of refinement that has to be experienced.  It's all Shindo -- what else can you say?

This is a limited production amp -- once the last one is built, that's it (yet Mr. Shindo keeps plenty of reserve stock of tubes on hand for replacements.)

Price new is $7k (when I bought it last year) and will undoubtedly go up at some point.  I am asking a reasonable $5,750.00 plus 3% paypal, and I'll cover shipping in Conus.  Sorry, no overseas sales (this is a 120 volt model) and no trades.

Please, serious buyers only, no low-ballers and tire kickers.  Unit was originaly bought by me last summer from Matt Rotunda at Pitch Perfect Audio, so this is no gray market or unauthorized seller purchase.

A very special amp!

Thanks for looking,

Jim

[planet10]

Jim,

Sure is pretty



Is this a parallel push-pull amp?

dave

[jrebman]

Dave,

No, only 4 6v6 total.
-- Jim

[planet10]

Hard to reconxilw that with 15w Class A, in Class AB 15w is pushing the envelope.

dave

[jrebman]

By conventional wisdom anyway.  How do David Berning and Roger Modjeski and others get seemingly double the power out of a tube yet don't compromise tube life?  Thinking outside of the box is how, and a good part of what you get with people like Ken Shindo.  I don't fully understand how they do it, but when you have full control of everything, including the power supply and iron, and don't accept the old tube manuals' curves as the only possible ones, then you can free yourself of the constraints that others feel are the only possibilities.

Of course there is also no real accepted standard as to how to measure 15 watts either and like speakers, everybody has their own methods based on their best judgment -- or marketing claims.  I also don't think Ken Shindo needs to do any marketing -- he seems to keep quite busy with no advertising and basically no presence at audio shows.

-- Jim

[planet10]

How do David Berning and Roger Modjeski and others get seemingly double the power out of a tube yet don't compromise tube life?

I don't know bout Berning, but Modjeski gets the power out of the EL84s by having ~700v B+ (instead of the common ~300V) & screens regulated at <300v. Not something you can do with the 6V6. The same kind of op point Modjesky uses on EL84 can be used on EL34 to get something like 80 w out of a pair.

dave

[jrebman]

My point exactly -- once you dispense of the RCA tube manual as gospel, do some empirical research, a whole new world of opportunities opens up.  Higher voltage is one possibility, but so is higher current, high-frequency modulation of the filament, etc.

Not trying to be critical or anything like that, but I honestly don't know how this amp does what it does, but it souunded more like a 30 watt amp on my 90 db speakers.

This is why I build amps, not design them .

-- Jim

[roscoeiii]

Congrats on the quick sale. I do want to try out Shindo gear one of these days.