[srb]

I would think that freezing wouldn't be good for some of the components inside active electronics, especially power supplies. Since most electrolytic capacitors are 'wet' there may be a chance of rupturing them or for crystals to form which might cause damage to the aluminum oxide, the electrodes.

Even CryoFreeze who specializes in Audio and Musical Instrument cryogenic treatment says

"At this time, we are VERY SELECTIVE when treating complete audio components, only doing so in special situations, where all the risks are understood. Treating complete audio components is tricky due to the potential for damage to electrolytic capacitors, plastic casings, and a host of other internal parts."

As most all Bryston equipment contains electrolytic capacitors, I would think the liberal Bryston warranty would be suspended for those somehow dissatisfied with the sound of their stock Bryston who resort to cryogenic treatment.

Steve

[Sasha]

what cables have you used? just out of curiousity.

It is irrelevant to the subject you picked up to comment on.
If you failed to understand it try to read it again.

[werd]

If you are not able to answer a few questions that are directly related to you animosity than maybe you shouldn't be posting. So what cables have used its an easy question?

[Sasha]

If you are not able to answer a few questions that are directly related to you animosity than maybe you shouldn't be posting. So what cables have used its an easy question?

Stop being so condescending, you have no reason for it, you are far less educated and have far less understanding of subjects discussed than many here. You cannot push your unfounded views on others by taking discussion in different direction.
My statement once again was:
"The spaces/gaps between crystalline grain structures have nothing to do with how well certain metals conduct electricity and it has nothing to do with lower resistance (higher conductivity) rating of silver over copper at room temperature.
There is lot of nonsense and sometimes utter BS in marketing attempts to push products."
If you are convinced that silver is better conductor than copper because of “spaces/gaps between crystalline grain structures” then you ought to read on this subject and educate yourself.
And once again, your question has nothing to do with my statement and the subject of it so I will not dignify it with an answer.

[werd]

Stop being so condescending, you have no reason for it, you are far less educated and have far less understanding of subjects discussed than many here. You cannot push your unfounded views on others by taking discussion in different direction.
My statement once again was:
"The spaces/gaps between crystalline grain structures have nothing to do with how well certain metals conduct electricity and it has nothing to do with lower resistance (higher conductivity) rating of silver over copper at room temperature.
There is lot of nonsense and sometimes utter BS in marketing attempts to push products."
If you are convinced that silver is better conductor than copper because of “spaces/gaps between crystalline grain structures” then you ought to read on this subject and educate yourself.
And once again, your question has nothing to do with my statement and the subject of it so I will not dignify it with an answer.

Just what i thought. All we ever get from you is stuff you've read somewhere and we get it regurgitated here. Oh well it seems likely you haven't used cryo and this thread has turned into another sasha bully thread.

Just so you know i wouldnt let you anywhere near my system in advice. As the end result would be nothing more than a sterilized text book of some listless soundstage. So just keep wasting your time in whatever it is you call your hobby. Its definitely has nothing to do with getting music into your home..... don't bother replying as this is the last i will talk to you.

[Sasha]

this is the last i will talk to you.

Very much appreciated.

[werd]

Anyways Elizabeth just have one of your pangea cords cryoed. I haved had cryoed cables in house but it s hard to tell what the improvement if any was. Unless  you have heard the same cable before the cryo treatment it's hard to give an accurate account of how the sound characteristic of a cryo cable is. You have to A/B the two.

[Sasha]

One would have to be nothing short of retarded to subject Bryston product he/she owns to cryo treatment.
The argument that something has to be tried to determine if it works is also borderline retarded.
One does not need to try Brilliant Pebbles from Machina Dynamica in order to conclude that it is absolute BS, nor one needs to treat his scalp with horse shit to conclude it does not help grow hair or gray cells.

[PRELUDE]

Well,let's say if cryoing works.
I ignore every thing but it would be nice If I could freeze my entire CDs and get better recording out of them.

[srb]

I ignore every thing but it would be nice If I could freeze my entire CDs and get better recording out of them.

No problema.

http://www.stereophile.com/asweseeit/822/

[PRELUDE]

No problema.

http://www.stereophile.com/asweseeit/822/

Nice
But I do not like this part.
( The treatment doesn't always work)

[VOLKS]

treat his scalp with horse shit.

This whole thread has turned into horseshit lol
 

[Æ]

No problema.

http://www.stereophile.com/asweseeit/822/

"The result is reportedly an audible improvement in sound quality."

[werd]

I just dare for someone to call Ed Meitner a crackpot.

[Sasha]

No problema.

http://www.stereophile.com/asweseeit/822/

That article is also full of spin-offs and misleading statements designed to substantiate claims made.
For example: “Although theory states that noise and jitter in the HF signal will have no effect on sound quality…”. What theory? Who came up with this theory? It is absolutely clear that jitter has tremendous impact on sound quality, it is measurable and easily audible, it is the main reason why digital sources sound different, and good designers of digital circuits always take measures to minimize jitter.
Of course the author of the text then attempts to distance himself from BS by saying in the footnote that he: “merely relate the explanations of physical phenomena as described by others.”.
Where are those measurements that show claimed reduction in jitter with treated CDs?
This is also a big pile of hot steaming horse shit.
Same goes with those “CD de-magnetizers”. I have heard the effects of it. It does not make CDs sound better. It does make some barely audible changes to the sound after the “treatment” that are short lived, but it does not sound “better”. This is also a product for those easily deceived. I do not see who in their right mind would spend close to a thousand $ on this.
If one seeks improvements to the sound (more truthful reproduction of recordings) then money would be far better spent on well designed products with sound engineering behind them that can clearly demonstrate improvements, and not on woo doo.
Teleportation tweaks, Bybee Quantum Purifiers, etc., no thank you, these companies can go sell their crap to someone else, not me.

[redbook]

 All measurements aside, the bottom line is ..."if it works for you, it works" ... period. Being all too technical kills the adventure of experiment.

[PRELUDE]

That article is also full of spin-offs and misleading statements designed to substantiate claims made.
For example: “Although theory states that noise and jitter in the HF signal will have no effect on sound quality…”. What theory? Who came up with this theory? It is absolutely clear that jitter has tremendous impact on sound quality, it is measurable and easily audible, it is the main reason why digital sources sound different, and good designers of digital circuits always take measures to minimize jitter.
Of course the author of the text then attempts to distance himself from BS by saying in the footnote that he: “merely relate the explanations of physical phenomena as described by others.”.
Where are those measurements that show claimed reduction in jitter with treated CDs?
This is also a big pile of hot steaming horse shit.
Same goes with those “CD de-magnetizers”. I have heard the effects of it. It does not make CDs sound better. It does make some barely audible changes to the sound after the “treatment” that are short lived, but it does not sound “better”. This is also a product for those easily deceived. I do not see who in their right mind would spend close to a thousand $ on this.
If one seeks improvements to the sound (more truthful reproduction of recordings) then money would be far better spent on well designed products with sound engineering behind them that can clearly demonstrate improvements, and not on woo doo.
Teleportation tweaks, Bybee Quantum Purifiers, etc., no thank you, these companies can go sell their crap to someone else, not me.

Absolutely.

[Æ]

All measurements aside, the bottom line is ..."if it works for you, it works" ... period. Being all too technical kills the adventure of experiment.

Yes, it's her money and if she wants to spend it on trivial pursuits, why not?

[Sasha]

Yes, it's her money and if she wants to spend it on trivial pursuits, why not?

Fantastic summary, exposed it all, nothing more to be added to this thread. 

[mark funk]

Well yes!

   After all this. What is she going to go! Well, Elizabeth, what do you think? Have not heard too much from you.