What a shame --- Adele recording engineer should be hung by his......

FullRangeMan · « **Reply #20 on:** 20 Feb 2012, 02:34 am »

I read the Whitney Houston producer and husband used a very cheap PCM DAC to her voice to add pre-ring and post-ring to her voice, to fit the Pop-Rock dirty sound standards the silly fans are used to listen.

mhconley · « **Reply #21 on:** 20 Feb 2012, 03:23 am »

Tom Coyne mastered the CD; Ray Janos mastered the vinyl LP. (RJ is in the dead wax)

I am sure they both used the same recordings but one compressed the hell out of it while the other did not.

Martin

lonewolfny42 · « **Reply #22 on:** 20 Feb 2012, 06:05 am »

Quote from: mhconley on 20 Feb 2012, 03:23 am

Tom Coyne mastered the CD; Ray Janos mastered the vinyl LP. (RJ is in the dead wax)

I am sure they both used the same recordings but one compressed the hell out of it while the other did not.

Martin

Some Ray Janos clips from YouTube...about the vinyl process..on a different album.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPj7KZQhqo4&feature=relmfu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rptiRXZ0t70&feature=relmfu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMOl9iDzdEo&feature=relmfu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnwlLiEcxLg&feature=relmfu

bunky · « **Reply #23 on:** 20 Feb 2012, 08:42 pm »

i remember when Led Zeppelin's Mothership compilation CD was released. i had never heard such a jacked up,Compressed and bright sounding cd in my life

jackman · « **Reply #24 on:** 20 Feb 2012, 08:50 pm »

I think the actual word is "hanged". Wanting someone to be "hung" is a completing different matter...just sayin.

AmpDesigner333 · « **Reply #25 on:** 21 Feb 2012, 01:42 pm »

Quote from: jackman on 20 Feb 2012, 08:50 pm

I think the actual word is "hanged". Wanting someone to be "hung" is a completing different matter...just sayin.

Holy crap! You're right!

I'm known to correct people on stuff like that, too, like "carefully" versus "careful", or "there's" instead of "there ARE", or words that shouldn't have an "s" at the end (anyway, toward, backward).... Hell, my nav system says "towardS" instead of toward. That's a gray-area one, but annoys me nonetheless.

I find that I'm correcting people less these days. I'd normally say that I should be hung for such a mistake, but I already am

AmpDesigner333 · « **Reply #26 on:** 26 Feb 2012, 11:17 pm »

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AmpDesigner333 · « **Reply #27 on:** 27 Feb 2012, 06:19 pm »

Check this out (on Audiogon) regarding Adele 21:
http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr.pl?ddgtl&1316231238&read&keyw&zzadele+21

....and this one:
http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr.pl?gmusi&1225543481&read&keyw&zzadele+21

We listened to this Adele 21 briefly at Barry's (see other thread) with Oppo Blu-ray, VAC pre, Cherry ULTRA. That's what started the discussion on this thread.

georgehifi · « **Reply #28 on:** 17 Nov 2016, 09:50 pm »

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georgehifi · « **Reply #31 on:** 17 Nov 2016, 10:01 pm »

Quote from: AmpDesigner333 on 19 Feb 2012, 04:20 pm

I was listening to Adele 21 on a really great system yesterday (more about the system later), and the recording pretty much sucks. What a shame! It sounds flat and compressed!

It took me a while to get "talked into" really listening to Adele. Finally, I caved and bought the CD after hearing the AAC from iTunes just to determine if I like any songs. I thought it sounded like crap due to the compression, but what I heard sounds like they decoded the AAC file and wrote it to CD as-is.

Does anybody out there agree? She really has a beautiful voice and stunning inflection. I'm sad to say that I can't enjoy her voice in an audiophile fashion.....

-Tommy O

So true look at the compression website, no green at all on all here albums, all compressed and she's so good

http://dr.loudness-war.info/album/list?artist=adele&album=

PS sorry about the 3 dud posts above, brain fart
Cheers George

GRACE RUBY · « **Reply #32 on:** 28 Nov 2016, 12:32 am »

Folks
The most important statement I ever heard said,, how ever intangible as a tool for change , was from the founder of "Audio Quest", about 20 years ago, I was looking at working for him and asked how he was fixed for discussing CD's with the wire buying public, he said, "Producers have almost no total control over the out come of a digital recording, and as long as its a toy to most who buy it to touch and not a statement of Hi Fidelity, whole albums will go in the trash"

I have seen entire bands disappear because the magic never got on the chilly as ice CD, the music industry needs this crap sent back to them, and wasted rock stars with zero hearing need to get out of the booth for folks with ears.

On my birthday back in the late 90's I dropped several $!00.00 on cd's at tower records DC, I took about 7 back as bad sounding defects, made them listen to them, got my money back, Bet those refund days are over.

mojave · « **Reply #33 on:** 30 Nov 2016, 12:07 am »

The Blu-ray, Adele Live at the Royal Albert Hall, has all the songs from 21 except He Won't Go. It has much better dynamic range than the CD. I used it at the Digital Amp Room at RMAF two years ago.

With just a few mouse clicks in JRiver Media Center, I can rip the tracks to FLAC (either stereo or multi-channel) and listen to the songs just like any other CD. I also get rid of the talking between songs.

Folsom · « **Reply #34 on:** 30 Nov 2016, 12:40 am »

Try buying the LP, 21 & 25. Who ever is pressing them sucks ass at their job, total dick-bag-morons. My 25 was basically unusable (I got rid of it, but could have used it for a plate with the dish it had), and 21 has some defects I'd only expect on some well worn and perhaps abused discs.

KCLam · « **Reply #35 on:** 20 Jul 2017, 02:37 pm »

Reviving this thread to comment on the Japanese pressing that I bought home whilst holidaying in HK. It was far superior than the European pressing, It was quieter, more dynamic and it did not have the harshness, the Japanese pressing reminded me of her live performance whilst seated in row 10 at the Etihad stadium in Melbourne...well almost

Art_Chicago · « **Reply #36 on:** 20 Jul 2017, 03:11 pm »

Quote from: KCLam on 20 Jul 2017, 02:37 pm

Reviving this thread to comment on the Japanese pressing that I bought home whilst holidaying in HK. It was far superior than the European pressing, It was quieter, more dynamic and it did not have the harshness, the Japanese pressing reminded me of her live performance whilst seated in row 10 at the Etihad stadium in Melbourne...well almost

is it available in the US? we are talking about 21, and not 25 which i could not stand...

AmpDesigner333 · « **Reply #37 on:** 20 Jul 2017, 04:04 pm »

Quote from: KCLam on 20 Jul 2017, 02:37 pm

Reviving this thread to comment on the Japanese pressing that I bought home whilst holidaying in HK. It was far superior than the European pressing, It was quieter, more dynamic and it did not have the harshness, the Japanese pressing reminded me of her live performance whilst seated in row 10 at the Etihad stadium in Melbourne...well almost

Thanks for your post. I searched HD Tracks for Adele, since I'm primarily interested in digital content. They have only ONE TRACK from Adele (Skyfall)! I'll buy it just to check the quality. It's 96/24 in AIFF, ALAC, FLAC, or WAV format.

AmpDesigner333 · « **Reply #38 on:** 7 Apr 2019, 09:29 pm »

Link to DR database for Adele 21:
http://dr.loudness-war.info/album/list?artist=Adele&album=21

RDavidson · « **Reply #39 on:** 8 Apr 2019, 12:23 am »

Yeah, I thought it was pretty well known that her recordings were horrendously processed. It's unfortunate you found this out after the fact, especially as she is a great vocal talent.