[JerryM]

Great movie. A solid 4.7.

A 'thinkers' movie, if you can give a couple liberal 'passes' to Hollywood. Powerful stuff by Liam Neeson. Really very good, IMO.

Have fun,

Jerry

[Rob Babcock]

I've been meaning to catch that one.  I should have watched it tonite instead of that $hitty Superbowl!

[Folsom]

I wish it would of had some inner monologue or more on Liam Neeson's character thrown into this situation where he is trying to live, when he didn't care about his life at all prior.

It was a decent movie.

By the way Grey wolves don't typically get above 120lbs in Alaska. In fact most are under 100lbs. Only very rare ones get in the high numbers, 195lb being the biggest ever recorded. A human would rock their shit in real life. However the power of their bite could break an arm potentially, but meat and clothing would probably prevent it.

I hate the reviewers that say it was just meant to demonize wolves. They are a valuable edition to forests, but have to be managed to some degree around ranchers. Here in Montana people have turned them into the devil walking on earth (rather absurd since most have never seen one). It just seems like people are fishing for a story that is not there. Yeah so what, wolves don't typically behave that way... Just like bears don't usually kill people they know right?

[WGH]

A human would rock their shit in real life. However the power of their bite could break an arm potentially, but meat and clothing would probably prevent it.

I don't know about that, 120 lbs of teeth is pretty formidable. How do I know? I hike every weekend with a 122 lb wolf, sometimes two. They ain't dogs, not even close. And no they are not hybrids. Nakaii (L) and Loki (R) are extremely smart, though they are brothers they have different temperaments. Loki is a cookie monster and learned after one visit to a drive up window that if he howled he would get a dog biscuit the barista keeps behind the counter. Nakaii would take your arm off if you tried to take his stick, otherwise he is very loveable and friendly. They both wear training (shock) collars when we are out just in case.



Looking forward to the movie, Liam Neeson is a good actor.

Wayne

[Rclark]

I read if a dog (or wolf) of that size attacks you you're supposed to shove your fist down it's throat and clutch your body close to its belly to avoid the kicking legs; choke it out.

[eclein]

Is that before or after the hear attack?

[Rclark]

Lol, yeah, it sounds easy.

[roymail]

I wish they would limit the bad language in these movies.  More than 150 f-words and 50 s-words is enough to ruin a good movie for me.

[WGH]

More than 150 f-words and 50 s-words is enough to ruin a good movie for me.

Stay away from renting the Deadwood series.
http://thewvsr.com/deadwood.htm

[Wolfman]

WGH-I cannot tell you how amazing that photo and your experiences are,I'd love to hear details of that some day.
Did you raise them from birth,or were they at one point raised in captivity?
I'm not used to seeing wild Wolves that comfortable around Humans,especially w/a dog present!   
Walking them,get outa' here! You've got to be kidding!
Things certainly are different in Texas!

Generally wild wolves stay away from humans,especially here in the U.S. because of firearms,basically.
Usually most attacks historically have been from malnourished wolves,although healthy ones have attacked as well. Still far fewer than lightning strikes numbers wise.
Wolves will attack,as will Bears or almost any wild animal,if you mistaken approach their young,or a kill. They're only successful 10%(generally) of the time,so they take those kills seriously.

No way a human wins against a healthy Wolf who's really attacking and just not letting you know you've broken the pack rules without weapons,the only sure way to win is a firearm.
BTW,their main prey is Deer,Elk and even sometimes Moose. When they feed,they chew through EVERYTHING, leg bones included. Think Human bones would present any problems compared to the thigh bone of an Elk?
They sure as heck ain't no dog,the only Dog jaw strength that approaches them is the Rottweiler,which can and has killed mature Hogs around here with one bite to the back of the neck,taking out half the Hogs' neck.   

There's enough anti Wolf propaganda already out there,I don't think I'll contribute to it by paying any money for this film. Does look like a well put together action film,tho.

Sorry for the length.....   

[roymail]

Stay away from renting the Deadwood series.
http://thewvsr.com/deadwood.htm

In my opinion, that's sad and pathetic!

[WGH]

Did you raise them from birth,or were they at one point raised in captivity?

Where they came from is a secret but they were adopted when they were about 4 weeks old and would not have survived in the wild, they are now 7 years old. Nakaii is my hiking buddy and belongs to a good friend, we have been hiking together for 2-1/2 years. Loki lives with another couple, he just had hip surgery so I haven't seen him lately.

[jdoris]

Extraordinary animals, WGH. 

Re The Grey.  IMHO, an unusually weak action movie, and I'm the furthest thing from a movie snob (having just enjoyed Underworld, # 72).  Ditto my buddy, who is even less of a snob than I.  Hard to buy into the premise, and hard to believe within the premise (the smart play is leave leave shelter, no gloves at 10 degrees after falling in a river, etc. Really?).   The natural comparison is Anthony Hopkins and Alex Baldwin vs. the predatory bear (the name escapes me); also a stretch, but liked it better.  Just my 2c, of course.

John

[Folsom]

I don't know about that, 120 lbs of teeth is pretty formidable. How do I know? I hike every weekend with a 122 lb wolf, sometimes two. They ain't dogs, not even close. And no they are not hybrids. Nakaii (L) and Loki (R) are extremely smart, though they are brothers they have different temperaments. Loki is a cookie monster and learned after one visit to a drive up window that if he howled he would get a dog biscuit the barista keeps behind the counter. Nakaii would take your arm off if you tried to take his stick, otherwise he is very loveable and friendmoney and ly. They both wear training (shock) collars when we are out just in case

Wayne

Wayne the important thing to remember is that there would only be one wolf at 120lbs in a pack, the alpha. However there is far from a guarantee that even the alpha would reach 120lbs. Your two buddies are well fed, all the time. Wolves meals are here and there. Typically a well fed large dog is much more of a threat than any one wolf you would run into; with the one other factor being that the average wolf has a stronger bite than many dogs.

The biggest reason people lose without weapons is fear. I am sure some of you are smaller men than me but... 80lb anything coming at me, I can pick up, slam, throw, whirl, whatever I want to do with it. 120lbs, well not that much different but harder to get over the head. Not to say I would "win" because it is pretty damn scary when you hear one, and see their teeth. It also hurts like hell to be bit. I roomed with a larger wolf/malamute than either of your dogs. It was not fun when he got upset, but he still stood no chance at pushing his weight around against me (I've yanked him off of other idiot dogs with death wishes before). Humans are capable of a lot more than we give them credit for these days... By the way Cane more than anything just like to grab loafs of bread off the counter (very easy for him) at night and leave a bag with crumbs on the coach by morning.

As far as sticking your arm down their throat, yes. Dogs freak when something is pressed to the back of their mouth. Furthermore if you stuck your arm in their throat do you need to choke? I am pretty sure you could just "stir" and kill the animal in moments. One technique against dogs is to get them to bite on your forearm, place the other one behind the neck, and then press up with the bit arm, down with the other. Ideally you want it to bite the inside of the arm. This allows you to straddle the dog and potentially break its neck. You could also squeeze it to death with your legs as you press your arm back into its mouth and it panics.

Again the trouble is, no matter what kind of advantages you got, what do you do when all you naturally have going for you is an urge to pee yourself? I guess it is better than getting in a fight with a cat since dogs have clean mouths, ha.

[Rclark]

what scares me are these packs of feral dogs you hear about now, there was one I heard that got to the point where they were just killing things for sport.

[mcgsxr]

An interesting movie, I will watch it when it is on broadcast tv, not likely paying to see this one.

Dogs or their wolf cousins are scary looking creatues, and packs are very dangerous.  One on one I like my chances with any of them.  It would not be pretty, but I would bet on surviving when pushed.

Grandfather McG used to tell stories about dogs and his preferred 2 stick method of dealing with them.  Offer them one to bite on, and whack with the other.  Repeat as necessary!

[WGH]

Redbox is my new friend. I will wait the few months to rent this one, by then it will be over 100 degrees in Tucson and the perfect summer movie.

A stick story: Nakaii will fetch when we throw a stick but then it is his to do with as he pleases, which is usually chew it into pieces. Sticks as thick as your forearm radius or ulna bones are easily cracked in a bite or two.

[Rob Babcock]

I just got back from a late showing of The Grey.  Okay, let me get the obvious out of the way- the wolf stuff was absurd!   I really wish they'd have made it a werewolf story or something like The Thing.  They weren't portrayed as wolves at all, more like Hollywood movie monsters.  There's no precedent in human history for wolf behavior like that!  I don't want to post any spoilers but I think it's safe to assume everyone knows the survivors of a plane crash are being stalked and attacked by killer wolves.  There's no way wolves are that aggressive and downright "evil" attempting to kill everyone simply to drive the story forward.

That said, I loved the movie!   Neeson is really flourishing in his second act as an action hero.  He's an imposing presence, always has been, and not only can he handle the physical stuff with aplomb, he has an air of gravitas that few contemporary actors do.  It's almost as if any role he assumes is lent legitimacy simply by the fact that he accepted it.  He also has such communicative eyes; he can convey more with a look than many actors can with all the powers at their disposal.  The film works well as a character study, and it's brilliant that we don't even begin to understand Ottman until the final few minutes of the movie!

Overall I thought it was well written (aside from the rediculous wolf stuff) and well acted.  I didn't recognize Dermot Mulroney until the credits!  I knew he looked familiar but totally not the kind of flick I've seen him in.

I liked it quite a bit.  Probably will pick it up when it's out on BR.

[Folsom]

I think it is more of one of those, "what if" things. It is a pretty big "what if" when you include the fact that they were all over-sized.

[John151]

Just saw this on DVD over the weekend. 

I am a huge Liam Neeson fan, but this movie did nothing for me.  The premise was stupid, and it just went down hill from there.   Didn't even finish it.